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Re: Is this a reasonable setup?
Ken.C #297183 03/18/10 03:46 AM
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Tell me she didn't use the same tactic when you were shopping for rings. \:\)

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Re: Is this a reasonable setup?
pmbuko #297185 03/18/10 03:56 AM
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you CAN'T get emotional, I honestly didn't care one way or another, and everyone could tell. My buddies would ask me to go car shopping with them, cause they knew the sales guys didn't have a chance... and since it wasn't my car, I didn't care if we walked out with or without a car, we would just try again the next weekend.. emotions will always screw you over financially, thats what a lot of these sales tactics depend on...

Talk about derailing a thread... sry \:\)

Re: Is this a reasonable setup?
dakkon #297186 03/18/10 04:19 AM
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I don't like haggling, which probably IS why I buy most things over the internet. It does make me sad to talk to salespeople at electronics stores, though, since they know so little. Next time I'm in the market for something, I'll have to try the local stores just to see how far they'll go to get the sale.

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CV #297202 03/18/10 06:33 AM
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I didn't used to like haggling either. It wasn't until I looked back at all the money those guys took me for when I didn't know any better that gave me the incentive to go in there and put my game face on. You see I used to always think those guys were in there to help me make the best decisions for my HT... HA!!!

So no I don't go in there any longer with an open mind and then open my wallet to whatever they tell me I need. "Yeah but those guys down there are just trying to put food on the table for their families"... yeah I know the schpeil. But I don't like it when I'm lied to so that they can feed their families. Making an honest buck is one thing, fraud is another. I feel like I was bilked out of a lot of hard earned cash because I fell for the snake oil pitch. No I didn't go in there years ago wanting to buy a $350 dollar Monster Cable power conditioner/surge protector, the guy at the store told me I'd be a fool to purchase that 65 inch Toshiba rear projection television without having it hooked up to one! Preying on the ignorance of your customers isn't cool. Therefore I've lost my sympathy for those who greet you at the front door at the big box stores. Now that I see through their game, I have no problem throwing my best back at them.

"But what if everybody did that, pretty soon those places would go out of business"... not a chance. I'd estimate a good 85% of the people who purchase from a big box store don't pay a penny less than the sticker on the product told them to pay. It's just not in our culture to haggle, well except for places like a car lot. So I'm not afraid I'm bringing down an entire way of doing business by going in getting a screen at rock bottom prices every ten years or so. If they go out of business, it won't be bacause of me.

My only other option is to buy it off of the internet, which hurts them even more. So at least I'm throwing them a LITTLE something.


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Re: Is this a reasonable setup?
Micah #297228 03/18/10 04:42 PM
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i have a buddy who works for best buy, he said he bought a cable to connect his computer to his receiver.. he pays 10% above cost i think? he said the cable retailed for 35$... he paid 3.5$..... now the markup isn't always this much, but if i bought a tv, and needed a few cables, i would have no problem telling them, i want "X" cable.. with the TV...

Re: Is this a reasonable setup?
CatBrat #297334 03/19/10 02:34 PM
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As far as budgeting goes, if you have to buy incrementally I would recommened getting the L/R and center first (and sub), and adding the surrounds later. Unless you're into action files, the majority of films don't have a huge surround presence; while the center channel is used in almost all movies.

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Cork #297346 03/19/10 03:59 PM
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Right, but - depending upon your room setup and listening habits - a phantom center channel can work quite well.


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Re: Is this a reasonable setup?
tomtuttle #297359 03/19/10 04:58 PM
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That's right, let's all weigh in with our own preferences and confuse the hell out of this poor chap. \:D

I'd go with twin subwoofers first myself ;\)


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Micah #297428 03/20/10 01:16 AM
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I thought I was ready to go with the M22+VP100+QS4's, but I had an unsettling discussion with a class-3 audiophile today and he had me questioning everything. Implication was that dumping all my money into a top receiver would make even $30 dollar speakers sound good. Then he starting going on about his cables and I had to stop him. Am I dumb to dump $1500 on speakers to hook to a $500 receiver (Onkyo SR608 is the plan)?

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TinCanMan #297429 03/20/10 01:20 AM
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I've actually heard the opposite...a good set of speakers will make even a cheap receiver sound good. Don't worry, I've got $2000 worth of Axioms hooked up to a $500 receiver (Denon AVR 790)...and it sounds fantastic!

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