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Re: New owner
Ken.C #298162 03/24/10 01:02 AM
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile

As for the second, well, I think it's modern first-world human nature to try to get other people to buy stuff that you have. It validates your own choices.

Indeed Ken, indeed.

Where's that 7 year old thread on using the word "upgrade" all the time? \:\/


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Re: New owner
chesseroo #298186 03/24/10 04:35 AM
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Deathjester, I'm not trying to move you up to the M60's or M80's, as I'm sure the M50's are probably a great speaker in their own right... but I will say that any and all legends that tell of M80's being 'bright' are simply unfounded. Unless you have an unusually unforgiving, harsh room in which to listen to them in, then I simply can't believe you would find them hard to listen to. My living room is far from ideal.... hard wood floors, pictures hanging all over the room, reflection spots everywhere, zero treatments to battle those reflection spots, etc... By all means my M80's should sound like absolute crap in this room. But this is far from the case, these speakers sound like heaven on earth.

And for most who actually do find M80's to be too 'bright' or detailed to their ear, the M60's have usually been the go-to speaker. They are the 'laid-back' version of the M80's. But like I said I'm not here to up-sell you. I hope you recieve your M50's in and enjoy every second of your listening experience with them. \:\)

If however you find yourself one day with another project with which to fill a speaker order, I would say don't be afraid to test drive some M80's. You will laugh you're ass off that you had been given the impression that they were a 'bright' speaker, I know I did. And for the money, you certainly can't go wrong with the M60's either.

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Re: New owner
deathjester #298210 03/24/10 11:19 AM
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 Originally Posted By: deathjester
The main reason i picked the M50 was because people say they have a laid back sound to them. I really dont care for bright speakers. I guess every ones opinion on whats bright or not is different. Ive heard people say paradigm moniters were bright and i didnt feel that way. I find polks,kefs,totems,and klipisch very hard to listen to. I really wanted to try M60s since they really dont cost much more but was afraid they would sound like the above brands. Can any M50 or M3 owners here chime in give me an idea of what other brand they compare to.


My dad still enjoys his M50s after four years. His speakers did seem a bit more laid back than my M60s, but this was listening in a different room with different equipment. I liked his speakers just fine. Keep an open mind.

Re: New owner
deathjester #298228 03/24/10 03:10 PM
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Hi deathjester,

I think you'll really like the M50s--they do indeed have a "laid-back" sound, very close to the M3s but with much more deep bass extension and output.

The last time the M50s were put into a double-blind test that I did, I ranked them very well, and after the test was over, I was startled to learn I'd been listening to M50s and said,"Wow, are those M50s? I don't recall them sounding this good last time I heard them years ago."

Contrary to Micah's comment on the M40s, the M50s are NOT at all like the old M40s. When I joined Axiom and listened to the entire lineup and heard the M40s, I went "Yikes, what happened here??!!"

They were discontinued for a reason. By comparison to the rest of the Axiom models, the M40s were, um, er, dull, muffled.

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Re: New owner
alan #298237 03/24/10 04:08 PM
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The M40s should have been kept and sold/marketed for those that like that particular sound, Bose owners anyone ;\) \:D


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Re: New owner
Micah #298337 03/25/10 01:42 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Micah
I will say that any and all legends that tell of M80's being 'bright' are simply unfounded.

I find them bright and I don't find that unfounded at all given the number of instantaneous A/B tests i've done with other brands.

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And for most who actually do find M80's to be too 'bright' or detailed to their ear, the M60's have usually been the go-to speaker. They are the 'laid-back' version of the M80's.

Utter nonsense.
Have you ever heard both in an instantaneous A/B setup and SPL matched and adjusted for the difference in ear-tweeter height given the difference in the two speakers' vertical footprint?
If not, you have little understanding of how close the M60 and M80 are in sound, aside from bass extension.


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Re: New owner
chesseroo #298341 03/25/10 01:51 AM
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Bright compared to....


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Re: New owner
Adrian #298343 03/25/10 02:00 AM
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Glenn Beck?

Re: New owner
pmbuko #298346 03/25/10 02:10 AM
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Give that man a rimshot....


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Re: New owner
MarkSJohnson #298347 03/25/10 02:13 AM
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Or a tequila shot....


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