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#299174 - 03/29/10 08:58 AM M80s vs. B&W CM9s
cgolf Offline
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I'm moving to floorstanders for my media room and was listening to some B&W CM9s the other day. Haven't ever owned any and have never heard them until the other day. I've owned M60s, M22s, M2s, M3s, both centers and both surrounds from Axiom but never owned the M80s.

I'm curious to the similarities and / or differences between the 2 pairs of speakers-M80s & CM9s. Any comments or anyone who has heard them both??

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#299178 - 03/29/10 09:27 AM Re: M80s vs. B&W CM9s [Re: cgolf]
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Not familiar with CM9s, but back when I was looking for speakers I compared M60's to 703's and I preferred the M60's overall, especially for the price.
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#300065 - 04/02/10 11:51 PM Re: M80s vs. B&W CM9s [Re: SirQuack]
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i have a pair of CM1's and the CM center ( the small one). These speakers are in my bedroom. In the living room i have M60's and V 150. To be honest, in my bedroom the CM's sound wonderful.

I have listened to the CM9's as well. If I was in your position, leaving money out of the scenario, i would get the CM9's, the finish on my CM1's is much better than the axioms, the components that go into the construction of the B&W's are of a higher quality than the axioms in my opinion. My favorite thing about the CM's is the fact that the grills use magnets to attach to the cabinet, so if you have the grills off, there aren't the typical Grill holes.....


I hope this helps you out.

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#300073 - 04/03/10 12:16 AM Re: M80s vs. B&W CM9s [Re: dakkon]
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Dak, the point is that money can't be left out of the scenario. A nicer finish or the use of "quality", i.e., more expensive, components has no necessary correlation with sound quality. Axiom illustrates that it isn't necessary to pay "high end" prices to get high quality sound.
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#300124 - 04/03/10 12:17 PM Re: M80s vs. B&W CM9s [Re: JohnK]
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I think that the Axioms are a better bang for the buck. I like the sound of B&W's more. However, when i bought my HT setup in the living room, i didn't have 10k$ to spend on speakers, so I got axioms. That is why i made the statement i did. Cgolf is comparing the M80's at 1300$ a pair to the CM9's which are 1500$ each..

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#300129 - 04/03/10 01:53 PM Re: M80s vs. B&W CM9s [Re: dakkon]
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To say that the CM9s have a nicer finish and sound good so buy them makes no sense to me if you haven't heard M80s as the OP was specifically looking for M80 comparisons. For the extra little money cgolf could upgrade the finish to a custom vinyl which I would bet looks as good or better than the CM9s, HG Cherry anyone?

The original question is still there, are the CM9's worth the extra $200 over M80s(paraphrased)? I can't answer that. I can say that the M80s sound a little different than the M60s and IMO are worth the extra money over the cost of M60s. I have no idea what CM9s sound like but I can certainly say the M80s are crisper/cleaner and reach a little deeper than M60s.


Edited by jakewash (04/03/10 01:55 PM)
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#300140 - 04/03/10 04:15 PM Re: M80s vs. B&W CM9s [Re: jakewash]
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Jay, were your M60's V2's and are your M80's V2's? You may have told me before, or mentioned it before, but I do not recall.

I've never heard the CM's. I have heard 703's, 704's, a couple of the 600 series and the 800 series. None of them made me want to knock the dust off my wallet. I prefer Paradigm over B/W, which is probably why I like Axioms.
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#300152 - 04/03/10 04:55 PM Re: M80s vs. B&W CM9s [Re: michael_d]
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They were both v2's as I had purchased the M60s and A/B'd with mojo's M80s which are v2's, I also did my own testing when my own M80's arrived, with the same results. I will say the difference is less noticeable at higher volume levels, ~80db and up, but for low volumes the differences were easily noticed, especially when A/B'd.

Mike, I still think you might prefer M60s over your M80s since you run them with resistors on the tweeters, unfortunately I have never heard M80s with the resistors to know how it sounds in relation to M60s.
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#300157 - 04/03/10 05:13 PM Re: M80s vs. B&W CM9s [Re: jakewash]
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Listened to the B&W's while still debating Axiom. I like the B&W's better. Twice A$ good? Ahh, not to me. Do I love Sonus Faber's @ $12G a pair---every little thing about them, but I need to keep my car.

There are freight trains worth of speakers that are better in every way than Axioms. But I found nothing that made me really want them more until I cracked into 3G a pair territory. And I could have spent 4,000 bucks and still ended up with vinyl.

Or how about carbon fiber Hansens @ $240k. Bet they sound nicer than they look.
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#300296 - 04/04/10 12:56 PM Re: M80s vs. B&W CM9s [Re: BobKay]
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Thanks Jay.
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