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#303524 - 04/27/10 04:02 PM Re: I've sold a defective CD player..... [Re: ]
2x6spds Offline
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mpyw

Did the buyer ask you about the condition of the CD Player?

If he did, or if you made any statement to the effect that the player functions properly when you knew that the player intermittently failed to operate property (failed to read CDs) and if you failed to disclose or concealed that aspect of its performance when you knew that such knowledge would necessarily have an effect on the purchase decision of a reasonable person, and you concealed or failed to disclose such information in the hope the buyer would purchase your defective CD Player, then I think it might fairly be said you defrauded the buyer.

The fact that you proposed that the buyer test the warranty instead of doing so yourself does not, in my opinion, alter the fact that you defrauded the buyer nor does it justify your conduct.

As to your report that the buyer thanked you and told you how nice it was to do business with you, well, piss on some folks and they think it's raining.

So, for these reasons, to answer your question, if you had done this to me, would I be pissed off?

You betcha.
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#303531 - 04/27/10 04:23 PM Re: I've sold a defective CD player..... [Re: 2x6spds]
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This story reminds me of the time I had a Radio Shack TRS-80 computer with printer for sale. It worked perfectly, until, while the the buyer was driving 40 miles to my place, at which point, I was setting it up and testing it out before he got there and the disk drive broke.

After I explained what happened, he got pissed for having just driven 40 miles to get it.

This was all beyond my control, but it could have been that he had just gotten it home and then the disk drive went out. The TRS-80 was almost an antique when I tried to sell it, so disk drives for these were proprietary items and weren't being made anymore.

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#303549 - 04/27/10 06:03 PM Re: I've sold a defective CD player..... [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: htnut
 Originally Posted By: Adrian
Bob'll have his own filing cabinet in Jp's office by 10,000 1000 posts.


I'm trying, I'm trying. Well, at leat that's what people have been telling me my whole life.

My goal is not a file in JP's office by 1000 posts, but rather an FBI file in less than 500. How'm I doin'?
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#303551 - 04/27/10 06:06 PM Re: I've sold a defective CD player..... [Re: BobKay]
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And I'm not the one who started touching themselves on the HT thread. And as for the porn thread, I'm not the one who took a perfectly adult discussion and dragged into the gutter. I know, I would have seen it there this past weekend.
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#303569 - 04/27/10 07:12 PM Re: I've sold a defective CD player..... [Re: BobKay]
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#303581 - 04/27/10 09:22 PM Re: I've sold a defective CD player..... [Re: Adrian]
mpyw Offline
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Registered: 07/24/09
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Loc: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Well, he did ask me the condition of the CDP and he brought his own CD (with scratches all over) to test and he hand picked some CD from my rack to test also....it's all perfect running and he inspected the CDP before he decided.

The unable to read thing happens only 2-3 times for my old CD with some scratches....

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#303589 - 04/27/10 11:19 PM Re: I've sold a defective CD player..... [Re: mpyw]
2x6spds Offline
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A learning experience all around.

Good luck to you mpyw.

How do you like your Oppo?
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#303602 - 04/28/10 12:17 AM Re: I've sold a defective CD player..... [Re: 2x6spds]
mpyw Offline
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Registered: 07/24/09
Posts: 288
Loc: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
The oppo were great on BD but sounded awful if output using analog.

Luckily my Marantz did a good job on the DAC, although the sound not as good as the Cambridge Audio, I still can live with that.

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