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#304956 - 05/05/10 10:55 AM Axiom speakers & your AVR crossover setting
Pitbull24 Offline
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Where does everyone have their speakers crossed in their AVR? Do you set to the standard 80 or let Audyssey help?
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#304960 - 05/05/10 11:16 AM Re: Axiom speakers & your AVR crossover setting [Re: Pitbull24]
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I think you'll find various answers depending on your equipment, room, and preferences. Some like the M80's crossed at 40, 60, or 80hz and the VP's and QS's around 100hz. IIRC it's recommended that if you do use and change the Audyssey xo's you should only increase it.

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#304976 - 05/05/10 01:42 PM Re: Axiom speakers & your AVR crossover setting [Re: ]
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htnut has it right, too many variances, personal preferences, to give one answer for a crossover setting. For some, Audyssey helps alot while others prefer to not use it.
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#304980 - 05/05/10 01:55 PM Re: Axiom speakers & your AVR crossover setting [Re: ]
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A good starting place is to set all your speakers to small and cross all of them over at 80Hz this is what Audyssey actually recommends. You can raise the crossover of a speaker w/o effecting Audyssey. However, Audyssey does not calculate an EQ curve for a speaker below the crossover point determined during your receivers auto-setup (that’s what’s actually setting your speakers crossovers). So if you lower a crossover setting for a speaker the Audyssey EQ curve is not being use below where you lowered it from.

IMO it’s a good idea to start this way to get a good baseline. From there if you want to experiment to see how things sound with different settings you have a common reference point to compare things to.

To answer your specific question I have all my speakers set to small and everything but my M80 L/C/R set to 80Hz. My M80s are set to small and 50Hz right now. I do this for two reasons. I feel that the 50Hz-80Hz sounds much better coming from my M80s than my subwoofer. Also, I want all the bass in movies below 40Hz going to my Buttkicker so I start the roll-off higher than 40Hz.

I’ve also run my M80 large with double bass, or LFE+Mains in another room to help smooth out the bass by having multiple sources. But what works best for you is going to be totally dependent on your setup, especially the room and your personal preferences.

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#305004 - 05/05/10 06:13 PM Re: Axiom speakers & your AVR crossover setting [Re: grunt]
Pitbull24 Offline
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Thanks guys; I was more so looking for opinions than direction. I appreciate the reasoning behind the settings.
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#305005 - 05/05/10 06:16 PM Re: Axiom speakers & your AVR crossover setting [Re: Pitbull24]
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I run my M80s at 40 or 60 Hz, VP100 at 100Hz, QS4s at 120Hz. It seemed logical, but I've not experimented with it much.
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#305008 - 05/05/10 07:06 PM Re: Axiom speakers & your AVR crossover setting [Re: Ken.C]
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M80's set to small crossed @ 50hz

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#305009 - 05/05/10 07:12 PM Re: Axiom speakers & your AVR crossover setting [Re: Dduval]
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M80s @ 60HZ, VP150 @ 80HZ and QS4s @ 90HZ.
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#305010 - 05/05/10 07:15 PM Re: Axiom speakers & your AVR crossover setting [Re: Wid]
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I believe mine are 60 on the mains (M80s) and 100 on the center and surrounds (VP150 & QS8s).
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#305025 - 05/05/10 08:07 PM Re: Axiom speakers & your AVR crossover setting [Re: RickF]
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It looks like most of you have your mains set to small. I was under the impression that for larger, full-range speakers, they should be set to large. Is this the "new" thinking? My M60s are currently set to large, but now I'm confused.
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