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Re: Newsletter: VP180!!!!
RickF #304081 04/30/10 10:27 PM
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 Originally Posted By: RickF
 Originally Posted By: ClubNeon
4 Ohm VP180 + 6 Ohm VP150 = 2.4 Ohm flaming death in parallel.

I'm now running a VP150 and a VP100 in parallel for a 3.4 ohm load on my old trusty HK AVR635 ... what's another ohm!


About 40% more current in this case. Run em' in series!


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Re: Newsletter: VP180!!!!
Ukiah #304083 04/30/10 10:29 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Ukiah
they probably missed the mark on this one, time will tell.


My first thought was "it's too damn big" -- it's certainly much bigger than anything I was expecting -- but I really think they nailed it with this one.

The center channel sometimes gets almost as much content as both mains combined, which argues for the center channel being heftier than one of the mains. I see this as being a perfect match for my M60s ;\)

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Re: Newsletter: VP180!!!!
bridgman #304097 04/30/10 10:51 PM
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I agree with your assessment John, I believe Ian and the boys (and girls?) nailed it with this center.


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Re: Newsletter: VP180!!!!
RickF #304098 04/30/10 10:53 PM
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It's certainly consistent with Ian's other designs.


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Re: Newsletter: VP180!!!!
tomtuttle #304110 05/01/10 12:20 AM
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Very cool news! Glad to hear Axiom is listening and responding to our demands suggestions.


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Re: Newsletter: VP180!!!!
St_PatGuy #304116 05/01/10 01:21 AM
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One of the more interesting aspects is the WTMMTW configuration, rather than TMWWMT, which would have more closely followed the VP150 precedent. Wonder if the extensive listening tests Alan mentioned will also result in a possible re-design of the VP150.


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Re: Newsletter: VP180!!!!
JohnK #304126 05/01/10 01:59 AM
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From what I understand, the VP180 was designed the same way as the VP150: make prototypes with every possible configuration, and pick the one that sounded the best. So I wouldn't count on a redesign on the 150, although ya never know with Axiom.


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Re: Newsletter: VP180!!!!
ClubNeon #304146 05/01/10 03:14 AM
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 Originally Posted By: ClubNeon
It has magnetic grills. Wonder how soon this feature will be showing up on the other models.


I recall suggesting magnetic grills a looooong time ago. It's a nifty feature.

Re: Newsletter: VP180!!!!
JohnK #304150 05/01/10 03:30 AM
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 Originally Posted By: JohnK
One of the more interesting aspects is the WTMMTW configuration, rather than TMWWMT, which would have more closely followed the VP150 precedent.


It's better if you think of it as a TMMT configuration just like the VP150, but with a woofer tacked on at each end ;\)

Seriously, after playing around with some calculations looking at the impact of comb filtering, if you buy into that, this configuration does seem like the best one. My very informal experiments suggested that comb filtering is most noticeable in the midrange, so you want those drivers closest together. The wavelength of the frequencies handled by the woofers is so long that even the widest separation doesn't seem to be a problem, leaving the tweeters in the middle.

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Re: Newsletter: VP180!!!!
RickF #304280 05/01/10 05:02 PM
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 Originally Posted By: RickF
 Originally Posted By: ClubNeon
4 Ohm VP180 + 6 Ohm VP150 = 2.4 Ohm flaming death in parallel.

I'm now running a VP150 and a VP100 in parallel for a 3.4 ohm load on my old trusty HK AVR635 ... what's another ohm!


I have run my 3808 with 2 M22s and the VP150 as centers, no problems \:\)

I will be ordering a VP180 soon as well, uhhh, not to add to the VP150 and M22 configuration, I think that just might kill the Denon.

Is the VP180 ported? Nothing obviiously on the front, if not it must not have the same low FR as the M80.


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