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Re: Load times
CV #306768 05/16/10 07:59 PM
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 Originally Posted By: CV
One note is the PS3 will have 3D Blu-ray support with a firmware update, if that's of value.


Great point CV. I am not that familiar with 3d technology but will you need to buy a new television with the 3d capabilites to support this format. Is this correct? What about individuals with projectors?


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BlueJays1 #306771 05/16/10 08:22 PM
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Yes, you'll need a new display to do 3D. That's where the actual frame separation magic happens. So you'll need a player which can read the secondary "eye" information (which will be a muxed sub-stream, which can use the primary stream for key information, but not the other way around). A receiver which can pass the extra frame's worth of information untampered, which probably means an upgrade there too.

Some of the first 3D "displays" available were projectors. They're using the more expensive shutter-type glasses, which have batteries and need to be recharged. All that's needed from the projector is that it can run at 48 fps for film sources, or 60 for video. Then it floods the room with IR bursts which are received by the glasses to know which eye should be covered at what time.


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ClubNeon #306772 05/16/10 08:23 PM
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Funny thing is, I know so much about this tech, but have absolutely no interest in buying it, nor seeing another 3D movie in theaters.


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ClubNeon #306777 05/16/10 08:46 PM
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Ha ha. What turned you off? I've still only seen How To Train Your Dragon in 3D. The 3D didn't exactly sell me, but I still kind of want to try it out more. What have you seen in 3D?

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 Originally Posted By: CV
I'm kind of curious how fast my computer will load Blu-rays whenever I get around to buying a Blu-ray drive for it.


I have a HTPC with a SSD OS drive 8 GB, and Blurays load fast (from a sever over a GB network) If I use the local BR drive, it also seems speedy.

In comparison (only in my memory) to the Samsung 4600/56000? I bought and returned a while back, lots faster (also lots faster than a conventional HD)... but I could be wrong!

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CV #306783 05/16/10 09:31 PM
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 Originally Posted By: CV
Ha ha. What turned you off? I've still only seen How To Train Your Dragon in 3D. The 3D didn't exactly sell me, but I still kind of want to try it out more. What have you seen in 3D?

I saw My Bloody Valentine, and Avatar. So both ends of the 3D spectrum. Neither left me wanting to see more.

It doesn't add anything to the viewing experience. It doesn't look more real. The real world doesn't work like the 3D effect in movies. In the real world there's parallax, when you move side to side, previously obscured information is revealed.

I supposed 3D technology to eventually get to that point. Just as CG effects had to go through a growing period (and perhaps are still not as good as practical effects in some cases--blood splatter comes to mind). It'll just be painful to watch until it gets there.


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 Originally Posted By: CV
One note is the PS3 will have 3D Blu-ray support with a firmware update, if that's of value.

Well, only the PS3 slim from what I hear. The older PS3s have sacd. That's why I picked one up: Two birds with one stone.

Didn't OPPO announce a lower version of the BDP83 for those who don't want all the bells and whistles?


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Ah, 3 pages of discussion and dissent. Perfect!

How about the older Oppos? I'm not jumping on the BD bandwagon just yet--I don't think they'd work all that impressively with a 27" CRT--so I was toying with the idea of a used Oppo something or other. I don't really need a changer any more, since it's all on the GASP iPods...


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I have a Panasonic BD-55 and the load times are alright, but it doesn't fly by any means. It smokes my HDDVD player though. Avatar takes for-freaking-ever on BD but I heard many people have problems with that one.

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I still nominate Apollo 13 as having the most unreasonable load time I've encountered. I'm scared to put it in again for fear of looking like Jack on the other side of the startup.

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