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Re: More power for fronts-best way?
Adrian #309267 06/04/10 12:48 AM
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Okay, cool. More tweaking. If there is some dynamic range function interfering, this in theory should correct my 2 channel quality at high volumes.

Out of curiousity, Adrian, what is your spl at "0" when listening to CDs? I'm testing from approx 11' from the fronts and getting 99db. That would give me some idea if the output is correct for the receiver.

Thanks in advance!

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1sweetspot #309269 06/04/10 01:41 AM
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On some Denons they have a feature what is called Night Mode. If activated it limits SPL and dynamic range and if you would try to crank the volume with it activated the speakers would definitely sound strained. I have not looked up if your Denon unit has this or not. It should also have a feature called Dynamic Range Compression. Check to make sure they are turned off.


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Shouldn't it go back to the default once the receiver has been turned off?


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Wid #309272 06/04/10 01:45 AM
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 Originally Posted By: wid

Shouldn't it go back to the default once the receiver has been turned off?


Not sure which feature you are talking about. This is why I asked him to reset the processor. Although I am not sure if he has decided to do this.


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1sweetspot #309280 06/04/10 02:22 AM
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 Originally Posted By: 1sweetspot

Out of curiousity, Adrian, what is your spl at "0" when listening to CDs?

Sorry, I don't have a sound metre, but it's loud enough to hear the bass on the catwalk at the side of my house...loud. Btw, I should mention I have M80s, but still, you should be going borderline deaf if you are listening to that reciever/M60's at '7', imo.


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 Originally Posted By: 1sweetspot


I'm testing from approx 11' from the fronts and getting 99db. That would give me some idea if the output is correct for the receiver.


That sounds about right to me. If you are wanting it even louder than that you really should be looking into a separate amp. All you do is connect the amp to the preouts on the back of the avr with rca's just like a cd/dvd player's analog connections. Then run Audyssey or adjust speaker level outputs as usual.


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jakewash #309480 06/05/10 05:11 PM
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Is the signal from the receiver to the extra amp and amplified signal, or is it like the preout to a subwoofer-basically not amplified?

The reason I ask is if the wattage is "stacked"-if my receiver is putting out 115 wpc and the external is 100 wpc, does that mean 215 wpc are going to my speakers, or is the receiver's amp bypassed and only the external amp handling the signal?

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Output to a separate amplifier is always un-amplified. I expect you would fry the input to your amp if you fed it an amplified signal.


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fredk #309485 06/05/10 05:24 PM
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Makes sense. So, anyone have any recommendations for a more powerful (more than 120 wpc) 2 channel amp?

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The best bang for the buck would be, IMO, used 2 channel amps, Outlaw Audio's M2200 monoblock(2 of them) and proamps like Qsc, Behringer, Crown to name a few, but these amps tend to have slightly noisy fans in them.


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