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M22's or M3's?
#310855 06/19/10 07:01 PM
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I had decided getting 3 M22's for my future HT system, but I have read on some post some people stating that the M22's sound is flat ( in a bad way ). Can somebody point me out on the right direction? Help!!!!


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Re: M22's or M3's?
Ichigo_Kurosaki #310856 06/19/10 07:06 PM
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I have M80s and M22s. The M22s are not flat at all. They are actually very, very good and becomes most excellent when considering their price. My brother has the M3s and I don't like them much (less clarity).


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Re: M22's or M3's?
Ichigo_Kurosaki #310857 06/19/10 07:09 PM
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Hi Ichigo,
Depends on what you're looking for. The M22's will give a more accurate sound but should be paired with a sub to get full range sound. I have the on/in wall version of the M22 (the W22) and they sound amazingly detailed and accurate IMHO. The M3 provides a bit of a 'bump' in the mid bass region making them sound 'fuller' on their own, so could be an interesting option if there's no sub in the equation. That being said, you can probably get the same type of sound from the M22's by boosting your EQ a bit in the right region. My personal choice would be the M22's with a sub. Hope that helps a bit.


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Re: M22's or M3's?
Ichigo_Kurosaki #310860 06/19/10 07:47 PM
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Ichigo,

"Flat" can have several meanings. In terms of dimension, the M22s are anything but "flat." With good recordings, they can project a wonderfully 3D soundstage.

"Flat" can also mean "linear", as in a speaker having a flat, smooth frequency response, and that is a compliment. The M22 is very linear and will be brutally revealing of poor CD recordings, and will sound glorious with good recordings.

The M3, as has been pointed out, is not quite as linear or "flat" as the M22, and has a bass hump (boost) that's quite appealing on some recordings because it makes the M3 seem to have more bass output than more linear speakers like the M22 or M2. The M3 is also a bit less detailed in the midrange, so it's more tolerant of lousy recording quality than the M22. My preference is for the M22 with its sparkling detail and wonderful soundstage, but the M3 is a very nice speaker with legions of fans.

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Re: M22's or M3's?
alan #310866 06/19/10 09:46 PM
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I love my M22's, so if your saying flat is a bad thing, not sure of your sources. Alan summed it up well. You will hear things on other forums, especially AVSforum, that has not factual basis.


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SirQuack #310878 06/20/10 01:27 AM
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Both my brother and me own the M3ti's. Personnaly, I've considered a change over to M22 V2's but the thought of parting with M3's has always made me pause and reconsider keeping them. I think that says alot (at least for me) about their performance. That bass hump gives these transducers a very nice level of smoothness and sophisication.

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FireGuy #310890 06/20/10 02:32 AM
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Hi all!

I guess that most people like the M22's the most but the M3's still got it's own legion of fans though. Maybe I should get 2 M22's and 1 M3 so I can choose what sounds more fit to my smal room. Since Axiom provides the 30 days trial. Have any of you used the trial period? I was wondering, since I am going to be ordering from the FO it will take me around for weeks to receive my speakers, but in case I decide to change them will it take another for weeks for me to receive the new one? Thanks in advance for all of you.


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Re: M22's or M3's?
Ichigo_Kurosaki #310963 06/21/10 07:12 AM
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The difference is whether or not you like your midrange sound equal/upfront to the bass(M22) or laid back(M3). The M3 actually has a midrange dip that makes the upper bass sound more prominent than the midrange giving the illusion of more bass when in fact it is less midrange.


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Re: M22's or M3's?
jakewash #310966 06/21/10 10:52 AM
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So in case I have a good sub the illusion of more bass on the M3's would not make any difference then. Is that right?


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Re: M22's or M3's?
Ichigo_Kurosaki #310979 06/21/10 01:37 PM
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Ichigo, if you have a decent sub, in my opinion I'd be looking at the M22's.


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