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#315446 - 07/19/10 12:50 PM Balance.
Philippe Offline
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I have been talking with JC since last few days about a irritant situation and i would like to share here. I own my 5.1 Axiom speaker setup for about 3 months now so actually i can say that it is well tuned and well-placed.
So my litle concern here is that i would like to upgrade my stereo listening. To get a picture here my situation

M3- VP150 - EP350 - QS8
Marantz SR5003 a/v reciever and SR8003 cd player.
Room 11x8x27 but listening is at 10feet front gears.

I found in the M3 to be a way to shy in the bass departement ( yes it's a bookshelf i know) I have been trying to put on my subwoofer for a 2.1 mode but honnestly it is hard to get it well integrated.
So at this point i am vacillate between 2 options

1- Sell the M3 and get a pair of M60 or maybe M80
or
2- Add a second subwoofer (EP350)

Both of these options are about the same price. I would like to know what would be the best way to go. The for or against either for home theater and music.

thx for any advise and opinions


Edited by Philippe (07/19/10 12:54 PM)
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#315448 - 07/19/10 12:55 PM Re: Balance. [Re: Philippe]
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If you like and you're used to the sound of the M3's, my suggestion would be to go with the M60's.

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#315450 - 07/19/10 12:58 PM Re: Balance. [Re: Philippe]
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Adding multiple subs evens out the bass for more listeners, but if you've played with positioning and settings to improve the bass in the sweet spot, and that's where the bass is lacking, then getting another sub probably won't help you. Can you detail how you've ensured that your system is well-tuned and well-placed? Just curious.

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#315458 - 07/19/10 01:44 PM Re: Balance. [Re: CV]
Philippe Offline
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Tried several spot for my subwoofer and i finally end with the subwoofer crawling tip from Alan. The truth is that i still feel the bass comming from the subwoofer.
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#315460 - 07/19/10 01:55 PM Re: Balance. [Re: CV]
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What exactly is the problem you are having with your bass right now? No punch? Boomy?

After a year of trying to integrate my subwoofer into my system since I moved to a house it only happened after Charles (CV) loaned me his SVS AS-EQ1. No amount of positioning or even using dual subwoofers (dual subs don‘t always even out the bass especially in non-rectangular rooms) worked only EQ did the job.

I mostly use my M80s alone for music especially the EBM I listen to a lot. Although the bass frequencies of the M60s and M80s are still going to be subject to room interactions I find they work better for 2ch listening than going 2.1 without EQ for the sub. But this is very situational based on room and personal listening preferences.

OTOH buying something to EQ your sub is another option since that will also help out for other uses like HT and in the case of the EQ1 would cost less. Might want to see if SVS has a trial period in which case it might be worth trying one out. Also, there are other subwoofer EQ options available.

Cheers,
Dean
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#315462 - 07/19/10 01:55 PM Re: Balance. [Re: Philippe]
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I know that you said your system was well-tuned, but I have to wonder if you're running it somewhat hot if it's blending that poorly.

What is your crossover set at? And are you using the crossover in your receiver (only?)
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#315464 - 07/19/10 02:09 PM Re: Balance. [Re: MarkSJohnson]
Philippe Offline
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Acoustic Eq from reciever is off. LFE/HPF at 80Hz. Front speaker set at Large. And from my sub panel is at 150H and 0degree actually.
I have no clue what is a subwoofer EQ for. I might take a look at. See how connoisseur i am, that's why i am here. smile


Edited by Philippe (07/19/10 02:10 PM)
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#315466 - 07/19/10 02:14 PM Re: Balance. [Re: grunt]
Philippe Offline
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What exactly is the problem you are having with your bass right now? No punch? Boomy?

No problem with the bass. I found it deep, well acticulate but just not always equal filling the room
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#315467 - 07/19/10 02:20 PM Re: Balance. [Re: Philippe]
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Originally Posted By: Philippe
No problem with the bass. I found it deep, well acticulate but just not always equal filling the room


I thought the problem was that it wasn't blending well with your M3s; that you could localize it?
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#315468 - 07/19/10 02:23 PM Re: Balance. [Re: MarkSJohnson]
Philippe Offline
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No i am talking here about bass filling to room.
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