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Re: M80's: Recevier, or Recevier+amp?
SirQuack #316187 07/23/10 03:06 AM
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Scamp, welcome, and what I say about unused headroom is that it's simply that: unused. Get a receiver with the features that you want at the best price. Don't worry about maximum power ratings.


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Re: M80's: Recevier, or Recevier+amp?
JohnK #316193 07/23/10 03:26 AM
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Thanks. I think that clears it up. In this case less is more.

Denon receiver, M80's, no amp, extra butter on the popcorn.

Thanks for that warm welcome everyone.


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Scamp #316194 07/23/10 03:30 AM
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wait for it....wait for it...her come the Denon setup questions... smile


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Re: M80's: Recevier, or Recevier+amp?
SirQuack #316195 07/23/10 03:39 AM
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Not from me. I know the secret! BatPig. wink


Not to mention I'll spend the days (weeks?) waiting for my M80 v3's to arrive obsessively reading every post on this forum.


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Re: M80's: Recevier, or Recevier+amp?
Scamp #316203 07/23/10 04:26 AM
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For a second there I thought you were going to write that you read the manual. I had the number to the mancard police half dialed before I saw that it was forum posts you were reading.


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Re: M80's: Recevier, or Recevier+amp?
fredk #316204 07/23/10 04:33 AM
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Hey, I read the manuals for everything I own. Usually in PDF format before I even buy it.


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Re: M80's: Recevier, or Recevier+amp?
ClubNeon #316209 07/23/10 05:18 AM
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Reading a Denon manual and understanding it are two wholly separate things.


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Re: M80's: Recevier, or Recevier+amp?
Wid #316240 07/23/10 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: wid
Either set up you have listed should serve you well. With the Denon being 130 watts and the Emo being 200 per it's really a toss up. Denon is known to have a very robust amp section.

I thought the general consensus was that, if the volume is pushed, there were still advantages in using a separate amp because of the limiting factor of a single power supply of the receiver being used alone?

I had assumed (as a real-world example) that if I bought three Outlaw Monoblocks at 200/wpc, I would gain headroom. Not necessarily because I've supplied my three front channels with 200/wpc instead of the 130/wpc my Denon offers... but because none of the four power supplies now being used are likely to start hitting their limits as quickly as just the single one available if the Denon is used alone.(?)


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Re: M80's: Recevier, or Recevier+amp?
MarkSJohnson #316245 07/23/10 01:41 PM
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That would be my consensus as well. But probably only noticeable when that extra oomph is produced during explosions, etc, would be my guess.

Re: M80's: Recevier, or Recevier+amp?
HomeDad #316253 07/23/10 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: HomeDad
Reading a Denon manual and understanding it are two wholly separate things.

I'll probably never own a Denon, but I'm tempted to give their manual a shot, just to see if it really is as bad as everyone makes it out to to be. Perhaps then I could be a little more helpful in Denon related threads too.

But for now I have datasheets, and reference implementations for HDMI 1.4 chipsets to read up on.


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