Hello guys as most of you know I just recently got my Axioms. I couldn't test it to the fullest yet since Axiom has made a mistake on my order and didn't ship one of the M22's. (It was shipped Wednesday) I am happy with it for it's HT use, but regarding music it seems to me that there is something missing. I know that I still didn't calibrate it properly, but have been wondering about upgrading it to M50's. Would it be some improvement or should I stick with the M22? Also there is another question regarding the 30 days in home trial. If I exchange my speakers will I have another 30 days for trying it out? Thanks for all your help as you have been really helpful so far!

Forgot to say that I am planning on getting the M50's but if I don't like them will I be able to upgrade to the M60's after having another 30 days trial? ( if it is ever possible)

If it were me, I'd bypass the M50's altogether and go straight for the M60's. I haven't heard them, but they look like it was designed for people that don't like any high end. But it might be just right for you and your room situation. You don't hear much about the M50's here, so there might be a reason for that.

what is lacking about the m22's ?, how big is your room ?, do you have a sub ? My M22's upstairs are more than adequate with my ep350 to fill our huge living room.

I felt something was lacking with just the M22's also, but to me, it was more of a lack of sound stage. The sound was localized. Then I tried the on-wall M22's and it greatly enhanced the sound stage, but I didn't like the sound. At first I thought there was a lack of bass, but after much listening, there seemed to be more bass. I don't like voices from the on-walls, they just don't sound right at all, and some frequencies seem shrill.

My next trial will be with mounting the M22's on the wall and then mount M2's just above them. I'm not sure what affect this will have, if any, but I'm expecting the same M22 sound with perhaps a bigger sound stage since sound will be coming from above also.

Anyway, just my experience with M22's.

That's one of the fastest cases of upgradeitis I've seen on the boards.

Save yourself some time, the M60's are great but I would just get a pair of M80's and not look back.

My room is small 12 X 8.5 X 8.5. As I have received advice I might have some room problems, since I am lacking mid bass from my sub. For the ones who does not know. I have 3 M22's for front and QS8's for surrounds and an EP350. For movies I think it is fine despite the lack of calibration from my part though. Taking in consideration the room is small I was wondering that the M50's could be just fine for my purposes and in case I don't like them, if it were possible I would like a new upgrade.

LOL Wouldn't it be too much for my room?

As an owner of M22s, M50s, and M80s, I'd also go straight for the M60s, if you're certain that's how you want to play it.

I have the W22 in-on walls, a VP100 below and a VP150 above, Four QS8s and the EP500 in a 11' x 10' room

After research and ordering... plus reading the boards a lot, I don't know.... I was expecting some sort of life changing experience ... I got that experience .. some things sound incredible, others not so much ... then I change the setup parameters other things sound perfect, others not so much...

I'm learning to live with it knowing I made the right choice and it is miles above what I had and more than enough


My current setup was all about movies and my HTPC.. and I am very content... if I were to change something, I would setup a separate system just for music with the 80's, but for me that would be in a different room ......

As one sig says enjoy the music/movie, forget the hardware

everyone that comes to my home says they have never heard anything so incredible....

I have bitstreaming HD Audio, a home server with 16 TB, whole house audio, you name it .. some times I think we get to wrapped up in the tech and trying to achieve some unknown level... that we aren't sure even what that level is ...

or of course you might just hate your speakers