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Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers
fredk #317865 08/07/10 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: fredk
Stop veering on topic dammit!
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then we're talking about sprinklers, and now we're talking about speakers from a company that rhyme with "hose"

So, if you hook your hose up to the Bose and turn the water on does it give you liqid smooth mids?


Where all the grass is dead and spotted, that is where the water rolled off. Didn't get enough water.


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Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers
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Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers
BlueJays1 #317884 08/07/10 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: Dr.House
The termed "bass module" tipped that one off? LOL.


Disturbingly enough, no. I actually recognized the response curves.

On the other hand, I completely missed the reference to "bass module" blush


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Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers
MarkSJohnson #317911 08/08/10 01:34 AM
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Mark, I heard that on the new xx11 models Denon did drop the "crap" setting. Reminds me of one of the sections in Dr. Toole's book where he illustrates a speaker dial with settings "Me", "Sam", "Susan", etc., in a sarcastic comment on the belief of some that "personal preferences" should be accommodated.


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Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers
MarkSJohnson #317927 08/08/10 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson

Yeah, don't make Scott's mistake.

Personally, I'm baffled as to why Denon still includes the setting.



That's AWESOME !!!! And I don't even have a Denon.

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Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers
tomtuttle #318017 08/09/10 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted By: tomtuttle
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Objectively the M22 is the more accurate speaker.


Anechoically, measured with a microphone.

My room isn't anechoic and I listen with my ears.

Room acoustics and speaker placement make a huge difference in frequency response and listening enjoyment.

Continuing to harp on "accuracy" and "objectivity" while simultaneously admitting that enjoyment is subjective and that some listeners prefer clinically "less accurate" signatures doesn't make sense to me.

Fundamentally, I just don't believe you can measure and quantify everything about the listening experience.

Many speakers that are widely regarded as excellent have truly crappy looking graphs.


Holy Samolies !!! Tom Tuttle is a mystic after all. Tom, I agree with everything you said in your post. Subjectively speaking, I have a pair of M22V2s and still have a pair of M3V2.5s as well. Subjectively speaking, there is no comparison as far as I'm concerned. I'll listen to the M3s all day long without a sub. M22s? about half an hour if I'm distracted.


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Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers
2x6spds #318095 08/10/10 01:03 AM
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Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers
tomtuttle #318108 08/10/10 06:27 AM
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Very well said Tom, I couldn't agree with you more. It doesn't matter how many times I put my ear up to all these graphs I still can't hear any difference. wink


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Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers
HomeDad #318110 08/10/10 11:57 AM
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I didn't know the anechoic chamber purpose was just there to look pretty in the factory.


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Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers
BlueJays1 #318112 08/10/10 01:32 PM
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