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Re: R.I.P. AV123
bridgman #318827 08/17/10 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted By: bridgman
I like to think of us as John Cleese's Roman centurion waggling a sword at Brian and making him write "Romans, go home" over and over until he finally reaches grammatical correctness.


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Re: R.I.P. AV123
bridgman #318828 08/17/10 07:00 AM
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Some of the threads here are certainly quite Pythonish.

That reminds me, I haven't watched A Fish Called Wanda in a very long time.


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Re: R.I.P. AV123
bridgman #318832 08/17/10 12:45 PM
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All company forums have fanboys including this one. However, you really had to witness the degree it from the AV123 camp. Nothing can compare. Referring to the AV123 following as a cult would not be a understatement IMO. There was constant reinforcement from the loyal av123 fanbase on how great the president of the company was and the philanthropy he took part in (sigh). Not just within their own circle but spread throughout the entire audio community.

What separated the AV123 following from other companies was the downplaying of individuals with complaints, undelivered products, late products, defective products, refunds, unanswered phone calls and emails etc while at the same offering that reinforcement how great the company and the people were. This is something that would not be tolerated here and elsewhere with other companies (not all).

If there was an issue elsewhere , the apologists would quickly rush in for damage control with great numbers, reinforcing the great service, products and generosity of the president. In hindsight it was all misinformation and spin control.



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Re: R.I.P. AV123
BlueJays1 #318849 08/17/10 06:06 PM
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A credible source has stated:

On August 13, 2010, Mark L. Schifter plead guilty to two charges.

Theft (F3) - felony - theft of $15,000 or more
Charitable Fraud (F5) - felony

Sentencing will take place on October 8, 2010. Further information as it becomes available.



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Re: R.I.P. AV123
BlueJays1 #318928 08/18/10 02:11 AM
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And of course, time actually served may wind up anywhere between 0 days and 15 years.


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Re: R.I.P. AV123
JohnK #318964 08/18/10 01:52 PM
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Take into consideration it was a plea deal, no criminal record, I'd imagine it will be more towards 0-little jail time. However, there are still ranging fines, other costs, civil suits as well as restitution to the charities. There is also this thing called the IRS that loves to look into matters such as these eek . Almost better off being in jail eek .


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Re: R.I.P. AV123
BlueJays1 #318971 08/18/10 02:33 PM
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What are the acoustics like in a jail cell?


Wait. Fred lives in a concrete bunker, that's pretty close.....Fred?


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Re: R.I.P. AV123
Adrian #318974 08/18/10 02:38 PM
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You get "picket fencing" when trying to listen through the bars...


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Re: R.I.P. AV123
Adrian #318975 08/18/10 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: Adrian
What are the acoustics like in a jail cell?

Answer #2:
Just ask any married man....


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Re: R.I.P. AV123
MarkSJohnson #318983 08/18/10 02:53 PM
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Daily workshops for the inmates on speaker engineering, overseas manufacturing and assembly.


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