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#32052 - 01/26/04 07:55 PM Sound Imaging
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I was replying to another post about audition CDs and I started thinking about a cut off the Lyle Lovett CD "Joshua Judges Ruth". There is a moment on one of the songs where an instrument is clearly heard to the left of the left front speaker. I assume that this is an auditory illusion, after all, how can the sound come from there, but I have no idea how that happens. Anyone?

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#32053 - 01/26/04 07:59 PM Re: Sound Imaging
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What track is that? I was also thinking about the same thing. Perhaps people can suggest tracks/CDs (any genre) that demonstrate impressive imaging from 2 channel.

I had a person demo a few months ago and he gave me a copy of a demo CD he got at an HT show. It had a great demo track of a drum solo that had unbelieveable imaging. You could feel him hit the different drums on his set, even feel the position of the drums. I'm curious what musical tracks could show this off too.

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#32054 - 01/26/04 08:11 PM Re: Sound Imaging
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I'm at work, but I think the song is "North Dakota". I have other CDs where you can hear this, but that was the only one that came to mind. When I get home I'll try to find it, if the kids let me get on the system that is.

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#32055 - 01/26/04 08:20 PM Re: Sound Imaging
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Pearl Jam, fittingly since the Binaural album have recorded their albums binaurally - which is likely what's causing the effect you're talking about. Their latest - Riot Act is very well mastered.
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#32056 - 01/26/04 08:44 PM Re: Sound Imaging
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could also be a thing called "Q sound"

you can hear some Q sound on Roger Waters "Amused to Death". the first track just a couple seconds in, y ou hear a dog barking in the next yard over to the far left. also some other neat tricks on there
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#32057 - 01/26/04 10:01 PM Re: Sound Imaging
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I don't think this album was recorded with any "tricks". At any rate, I was mistaken about the song. The track I hear this effect the most is the last one, "She makes me feel good". The sound stage is definitely much broader than the speakers. Is it reflection off the sidewalls?
On a side note, sure was great to listen to this album again. The man is the real thing.

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#32058 - 01/26/04 10:49 PM Re: Sound Imaging
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as well, there is another album I have by a 'popular' band (NIN) and several tracks give an amazing illusion of being surrounded by sound, although you're only listening to two speakers (in my case, M22's).

I love that feeling

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#32059 - 01/27/04 12:37 PM Re: Sound Imaging
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if i recall correctly, isn't the "Q Sound" a gimmick recording? Don't think that would be a fair test...

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#32060 - 01/27/04 07:05 PM Re: Sound Imaging
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When I listen to 2 stereo music I always feel like I'm surrounded by sound and feel like I'm there. Don't all you guy get the same effect?
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#32061 - 01/27/04 07:15 PM Re: Sound Imaging
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Maggies are especially good at doing that, but my M22s are also great at throwing a soundstage much wider than they are physically positioned. I often hear sounds coming from beyond the left and right walls in my living room.

Part of that effect is reflections from the walls, but I have a feeling most of it is on the source. If you set up a pair of mics in front of a band, and one of the instruments is far to the left of both mics, then the closer mic will pick up a stronger signal than the further mic.

When you hear that recording played back on a good system, the interplay between the different sound waves from that instrument should recreate its spatial relationship to the other instruments in the band.
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