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#322590 - 09/15/10 12:21 PM Do you really need a dedicated center channel
cvictorg Offline
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Why not just use 3 (or 5)M2v3'S OR 3 M2v3'S and a pair of QS4v3's?

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#322591 - 09/15/10 12:24 PM Re: Do you really need a dedicated center channel [Re: cvictorg]
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That's a popular option 'round these parts. Some people feel it sounds better that way, in fact. Others feel like they don't have room for a vertical center.
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#322592 - 09/15/10 12:34 PM Re: Do you really need a dedicated center channel [Re: Ken.C]
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Can you put a vertical center on the floor or on an acoustical pad right in front of the TV stand?

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#322599 - 09/15/10 01:05 PM Re: Do you really need a dedicated center channel [Re: cvictorg]
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Another option that has been mentioned from time to time is to have a phantom center with using only the two main speakers.
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#322600 - 09/15/10 01:10 PM Re: Do you really need a dedicated center channel [Re: RickF]
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the closer the tweeters are to ear level the better, regardless of whether it is a center channel, bookshelf, or tower speaker being used for the center
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#322604 - 09/15/10 01:16 PM Re: Do you really need a dedicated center channel [Re: terzaghi]
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This would not place the center channel speaker at ear level

http://www.axiomaudio.com/fmscc.html

Originally Posted By: terzaghi
the closer the tweeters are to ear level the better, regardless of whether it is a center channel, bookshelf, or tower speaker being used for the center


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#322608 - 09/15/10 01:27 PM Re: Do you really need a dedicated center channel [Re: cvictorg]
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Do you sit in a chair or couch when watching movies?

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#322611 - 09/15/10 01:37 PM Re: Do you really need a dedicated center channel [Re: davidsch]
cvictorg Offline
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Originally Posted By: davidsch
Do you sit in a chair or couch when watching movies?


Sofa - the TV stand is appx 14" tall

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#322615 - 09/15/10 01:43 PM Re: Do you really need a dedicated center channel [Re: cvictorg]
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Hi cvictorg,

The center channel speaker does not have to be exactly at ear level. The dispersion of good cone drivers and tweeters is generous enough that the center could be up to 30 degrees off axis and you'd still get good intelligibility and frequency response. Axiom's stand for the center places the center approximately at ear level for a seated viewer/listener.

I would not advise putting a center on the floor because boundary interactions with the floor could cause some tonal colorations and annoying reflections.

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#322617 - 09/15/10 01:44 PM Re: Do you really need a dedicated center channel [Re: davidsch]
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Its just not a popular idea around these parts . There is also some factual basis for supporting this idea of using a matching vertical centre to your mains compared to a typical MTM horizontal and WM^TW design. Not only will matching a vertical centre provide the same power handling and sensitivity as the mains but will ensure matching tonal/voicing characteristics which is ever crucial to speech which as humans are very critical of and other soundstage shifts. Not to mention off-axis response which has been shown in some cases where the vertical matching centre is superior to the horizontal centre off-axis of that same brand. This is important if you are not sitting in the "sweet spot".

The biggest benefit of a horizontal centre is ease of placement and WAF (wife acceptance factor). This is a big plus and why most of us tend to use them.

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