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#325959 - 10/18/10 05:05 PM Re: Has anyone noticed the "budget" market changing? [Re: Ya_basta]
Adrian Offline
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Yah, I remember seeing that Cam. It seems to distort when the gain is turned up but not if you leave the gain set at one particular level as I understand it.
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#325960 - 10/18/10 05:05 PM Re: Has anyone noticed the "budget" market changing? [Re: Adrian]
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Originally Posted By: Adrian
Yes, LA Music, Axe Music and Long and McQuade all seem to be around that price but I've noticed that many of the really good deals on that amp(and others) have disappeared south of the border.

Some places are still selling them for $170-180 USD, but places like Parts Express and similar, have hiked the $$ up.


Here again, no doubt, because of the weakening of the US dollar related to other currencies and the Behringer stuff is made in the Far East, thus, it is costing them more money to import the equipment. Even despite this, I would gather because of the weak economy a lot of these sellers "bit the bullet" attempting to hold prices down, in turn, eating a significant part of their margins along the way. I guess they just can't do it anymore and the recent price increases show it.

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#325961 - 10/18/10 05:07 PM Re: Has anyone noticed the "budget" market changing? [Re: Ya_basta]
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Originally Posted By: wheelz999
Interesting video showing increased distortion of an A500 .


The professional audio crowd love to hate Behringer. smile
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#325963 - 10/18/10 05:12 PM Re: Has anyone noticed the "budget" market changing? [Re: Ya_basta]
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Wow, 2/π zero-cross distortion in a solid state AB amp these days? That's not confidence inspiring.
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#325965 - 10/18/10 05:18 PM Re: Has anyone noticed the "budget" market changing? [Re: jakewash]
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Originally Posted By: jakewash
It sounds to me like Oppo had problems sourcing the ABT video chip in the 83 and/or a few other pieces, so they had to make adjustments. Not sure why they had to drop the 80, but I bet it was due to the same sourcing issues.


I thought this chip was the bestest of the best. If they change it, does this mean that the DVD up-conversion will now be inferior?

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#325971 - 10/18/10 05:53 PM Re: Has anyone noticed the "budget" market changing? [Re: CatBrat]
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It was the best at the time. People are preferring the Qdeo chips from Marvell now.

Guess what the 93 has in it?
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#325973 - 10/18/10 06:12 PM Re: Has anyone noticed the "budget" market changing? [Re: ClubNeon]
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#325979 - 10/18/10 07:41 PM Re: Has anyone noticed the "budget" market changing? [Re: Ya_basta]
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Some wonderful, high end speakers (Thiel, Focal) can be had at 50% off. Look around for bargains, you'll find them.

Pricing is not a function of a recovering economy. It's not recovering. It is a function of the devaluation of the dollar, and the relative rising costs of imports and commodities.

It takes more cheap dollars to buy a dollar's worth of foreign made product. The US is threatening a trade war against PR China because of their currency manipulations. China will strengthen the Yuan and make Chinese imports more expensive.

On the other hand, manufacturers are getting pretty squeezed and are cutting deeply into their margins so they can move product and stay alive.

Seek a bargain and you will find.
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#325985 - 10/19/10 12:47 AM Re: Has anyone noticed the "budget" market changing? [Re: DreamTheater]
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Originally Posted By: DreamTheater
Will it be as good is the questions however, as the tried and true BDP-83. I hate when I see companies like Marantz push out newer and newer lines with more "features" at the expense of a solid, durable product. More features does not usually mean better to me, and when a product is good at what its supposed to do, I absolutely loathe when companies change it for the sake of "change"


I can't say if it will be as good or not, but Audioholics lists "increased performance and improved build quality" in their first look, and they note that the unit is the same height, same width, half the depth, yet has a bit more heft to it.

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#325988 - 10/19/10 12:53 AM Re: Has anyone noticed the "budget" market changing? [Re: CV]
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Needs more piano black, but I do think it is a step up in looks over the first BDP. http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-93/images/BDP-93.jpg
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