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UUGH - Watched FEDEX drop my new M80...
#32695 02/01/04 05:29 PM
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Searching for an opinion - FEDEX delivered my new M80's Friday afternoon and while I watched from my front door the guy tried to stuff all the boxes on one cart and one of the M80's took a "header".. It landed pretty square on either the front or back in the street. Once inside I checked for damage. The outer boxes were trashed - ripped all over - looks like they slid all the way to Texas (Note very thin outer cardboard for a speaker that heavy - the "handles were useless") Perhaps that is why FEDEX man was mad... Inside boxes were much better and not broken.. The one that fell had pulverized the packing foam on one side (certainly can't use it again).. I was pleased that I could not find anything visably wrong.. Set everything up and sounds sweet ! So the question is - Should I worry about the insides ? Nothing seems to rattle and all the drivers work - Can drivers get "out of alignment" ? I expect to keep these big-boys for a long time...

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#32696 02/01/04 05:58 PM
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If there is no visible damage and everything sounds AOK, I wouldn't fret. Who knows how many times they took a tumble from Dwight to you. I'm sure they're engineered to take this kind of abuse. But...I would request that Axiom send you a new cardboard box and foam to replace the one that took a tumble in case you ever need to shp them.

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#32697 02/01/04 06:00 PM
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I really can't answere your question. But, if it helps you at all, my outside boxes were pretty much torn to shreds as well. Handles ripped, inside foam broken, etc. just as yours were. Obviously why they are double boxed with lots of foam for shipping. I was a tad worried myself at the appearance of the package when first arrived. Also obvious, Fed Ex doesn't seem to care at all what they are shipping/delivering. Congrats on your buy. Enjoy!


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#32698 02/01/04 06:16 PM
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texasaudio,
That is something of a horry story to be sure, but consider the number of parcels Fedex ships even in one hour let alone an entire year from Axiom. Their shipping success rate is quite high and i know there are two employees of Fedex that frequent these forums who can confer that information (PM jbzngowest). Axiom ships their speakers in double boxes for the very reason that sometimes during shipping, mishaps occur. It seems the double box did there job in keeping your new M80s, well , new.

That being said, take some time with your new M80s and listen to various types of music at various volume levels (short of distortion) to be sure there are no odd artifacts in the sound (buzzing of a driver, rattling, scratchy or scrapey noises). Keep in mind that often times some things heard as speaker defects are really coming from the source (the music or dvd) that may not have been clear before depending on what speakers you owned previously. If such a sound exists, try swapping your right and left speakers first to eliminate the issue as coming from the source and if you are comfortable enough, you can also try swapping drivers (same size) within the cabinets to again isolate the problem with the driver or with the music.
You can always call Joe at Axiom customer service if you feel there are any issues that need to be resolved or contact Amie and staff if you are upset with the delivery itself.


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#32699 02/01/04 06:36 PM
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Sucks that they trashed everything, when my m80's came the handles were ripped also. this is probbly a part of the packaging that needs to be reinforced, or course this would add cost to the product so it might not be doable but id think even having someone tape over the handles good with some strong tape would do the job.

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#32700 02/01/04 06:45 PM
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That would suck to see, but it's probably one of half a dozen times someone at Fedex dropped your boxes in transit. If it sounds ok, the inner packaging, with which Axiom takes special care, probably protected it. Try not to dwell...

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#32701 02/01/04 07:03 PM
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As someone who's been in a mountain biking over-the-handlebars accident, I would see the pulverized foam as a very good sign. That means the foam (in my case thed helmet) did its job and absorbed the shock of the fall.

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#32702 02/01/04 07:52 PM
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yea, but if the foam is trashed that means that it did take a few hits. so its not a good sign

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#32703 02/01/04 08:36 PM
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Not at all. My helmet took one hit and the part that was between my head and the ground was trashed. My head was just fine (other than a concussion and subsequent headache).

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#32704 02/01/04 10:14 PM
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Good idea on the box.. I will call on Monday and ask about it... Thanks for the comments.. So far all is well...

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#32705 02/01/04 10:29 PM
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I hope that I don't witness Fed Ex dropping one of my M60's when they arrive...I expect that from UPS...but not as much Fed Ex...

Here's hoping I will be notified by Fed Ex BEFORE they deliver them...

Waiting to see...

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#32706 09/12/04 11:45 PM
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My Axioms are coming this week, to help reduce the ammount of parties involved in shipping, particularly my local delivery guy, I requested customer pick up. There is a main Fed Ex location right on my way home from work. Of course we will have to load everything in the back of my truck, but hopefully all will go well...


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#32707 09/12/04 11:59 PM
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Be aware, those boxes are HUGE. My M50s were a bit of pain to fit into my Volvo wagon with the seats down.


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#32708 09/13/04 12:49 AM
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Yes, the boxes are huge. The M80's come in 4' or 5' high boxes.

Enjoy!

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#32709 09/13/04 12:51 AM
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If you ever want to see a wife panic, order a pair of Klipschorns sometime... ... FOUR huge boxes...

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#32710 09/13/04 01:29 AM
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>>Of course we will have to load everything in the back of my truck, but hopefully all will go well...

Don't drop them


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#32711 09/13/04 02:09 AM
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That's funny . I installed a pair of Wilson Audio Maxx a week ago. Talk about a wife freaking out. I get to go finish the set up this week. I hope the misses doesn’t kill me . I can't wait to hear these babies.


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#32712 09/13/04 02:12 AM
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So their promotional material about them "As a visual addition to a room, MAXX impresses with its classic design and the unique level of its craftsmanship," is a bunch of crap, huh? God, those things are huge and ugly.

That said, I'd love to hear them too!


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#32713 09/13/04 02:32 AM
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Pardon my language, But those ba$tards are fuc*** heavy and ugly! But I'm still intrigued and can't wait to hear them.
I've heard nothing but good stuff about them. I'm afraid to know how much they cost.


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#32714 09/13/04 02:44 AM
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Also, it took three of us to move the damn things. They weigh over 800 lbs.

Most of us weigh in at 160 lbs. and where trying to move a 1000 lbs speaker. It had to be entertaining to the misses.
I just hope we have it toed in enough.


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#32715 09/13/04 02:44 AM
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MSRP when they came out was $38,900US...................HOLY CRAP!

Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price $38,900.00
Type Floorstanding
Frequency response 20Hz - 21kHz (-3dB)
Driver complement -
Nominal impedance 8 ohms
Sensitivity 92dB, 2.83 volts at 1m
Recommended amplifier power At least 7Wpc


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#32716 09/13/04 02:48 AM
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No $hit! It must be nice to have that cash flow!
This client also has a load of Krell and Linn equipment.
I'm in the wrong line of work....


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#32717 09/13/04 02:57 AM
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That's nothing. Have you seen the new Martin Logan Statement Evolution 2. $79,900 MSRP. lol If you want them in piano black there $89,900. Jeeeeeeeeees that's a ton of cash.

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#32718 09/13/04 04:01 AM
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This is why I like living ~2 hour drive from Dwight ... My m60 boxes had a tiny little indent in the cardboard...and I think perhaps a tiny hole in one corner of the outer boxes.



Glad to hear your stuff came ok!

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