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No problem Tom I actually took no offence but was just trying to make a point that generalizations are dangerous since no counting who the shotgun blast will hit. You have always shown the utmost respect in my comments whether you agreed with them or not so believe me when I say that though I quoted you my response was not directed at you nor intended to generate an apology. No blood no foul as they say.

Also I don’t disagree with you that there has been much misinformation about the VP150 based on theory, conjecture and hearsay but not real experience and I have taken people to task on other forums for their exaggerations about that speaker or Axiom speakers in general.

Cheers,
Dean (the scruffy one)

Well said Dean(grunt). I think that about covers most things ever said on any speaker forum.

My VP150 works admirably well with my M80's but as grunt noted the off axis is weak (1-3 db) and as noted so are all other horizontal speakers. I have tried my M22Ti with my M80s and I do like it slightly better than the VP150 but due to WAF I am unable to use one.

I think the VP180 does much better with the towers as it matches the tone much closer with the same driver complement reproducing the lower mid/upper bass frequencies. I feel this smoothes out the speakers sound and is why the M22 still doesn't quite match the floorstanders when used as a center.

Thanks for the input guys!

So it looks like I will go with the M22's and a VP150 for my setup. I'll pick up some QS8's later when my funds recover.

After more research on the VP150, it looks like the people that weren't happy with it, were also running the larger M80's. As Grunt and others mentioned, it shouldn't be a problem with the M22s.

As for my distance issue, It can't be helped with my room setup. If I move the couch any closer, I'd be blocking the fire place (which I do use). If I put the TV on the opposite wall and move my couch to a more normal distance, I'd be blocking my glass door. The house was built 70 years ago, so a home theater setup wasn't in the design of the room. I'm running a 60" projection screen Sony, so the screen is a little more then a foot closer then the wall. I'm one of those types that will use a TV till it dies. I've only had this one for a few years, so I don't plan to upgrade too soon. The picture looks fine from where I sit, but I wouldn't mind a larger TV haha.

Now a new question comes to mind. I had been planning on getting the "on wall" version of the M22 and a book shelf center channel that I'd mount to the wall using the Axiom FMB. I was just informed that the FMB can hold the standard "book shelf" M22's as well. Do you guys believe the FMB will leave enough space between the port and the wall? Or would I be better off going with my original plan, and sticking to the on wall versions?

Dean (the not as scruffy one)

I think that the FMB would give you enough standoff to use regular M22s, however, the M22 is not a light speaker and I would consider upgrading the mount inside to speaker with large washer and nut to hold the extra weight and prevent over tightening pulling it through. Reason being is that someone had a VP150, I believe, give out and fall off the wall. Admittedly it took 5 years and it’s possible the mount had been over-tightened and started pulling through from the start. But I would do it for peace of mind.

Though I haven’t gotten them yet I do plan to use FMBs to mount my M2 wide speakers one I stop being lazy and or tripping on the milk cartons.

Cheers,
Dean

The FMB`s work very well with the M22 and you get some extra room reinforced bass by having them so close to the wall

+1 for wall mounted bookshelf vs on-wall. Better sound quality.

and more flexibility down the road.

In re: wall mount vs. floor standing speakers: I have a 3 and a 1 year old. The speakes are located in their main play room, which doubles as the HT. I have never had any problem with them een coming close to knocking them over. I guess it depends on the kid, but these speakers are pretty stable.

Plus the floor standing are pretty heavy, very hard to get knock down if on stable floor.

My son (3.5) has managed to push over an M80 once (sideways), but it stopped immediately as it was sitting next to a bookshelf. On the other hand, between him and his sister (1.5), they've broken off every single grill peg on one and pushed in the dust caps on several of the drivers. C'est la vie avec les enfants, eh?