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Scared of my VP180
#328131 11/12/10 03:24 AM
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I'm putting my home theater back together today and was able to place my M60 up on my entertainment unit's bridge that spans between the two piers on other side of the TV. My VP180 will be in tomorrow so I thought I'd test it with the M60 to give me an idea of how it'll look.

It held and seemed to bear the weight but I swear it sagged a touch. And damn me if it didn't look absolutely huge. I guess I knew it was going to look huge but it looks absolutely monstrous once I got it up there. And the VP180 is actually a couple of inches longer and 10 lbs heavier. Yikes!

I'm actually scared for my new TV quivering below it. I'm going to give the VP180 a try tomorrow but I'm not holding out hope that it's going to find a permanent home here. It's just too friggin' huge and heavy.

I just hope it doesn't sound significantly better than my VP150 so that I don't have remorse if I have to send it back smile

Re: Scared of my VP180
icehawk21 #328133 11/12/10 03:29 AM
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I can send you an address to send it to. smile

I'm confused by your placement, where did you put the m60's and vp180? Are they above you when your seated? Ideally, you want the tweeters at ear level when seated for best soundstage.


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I can send you an address to send it to. smile

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Adrian #328139 11/12/10 03:46 AM
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I think I'd keep the speakers and get rid of the flimsy furniture.

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I think I'd keep the speakers and get rid of the flimsy furniture.


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Re: Scared of my VP180
SirQuack #328141 11/12/10 03:47 AM
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Let me try to explain without a picture. I should probably take pictures and post them - project for after the rebuild.

Anyways...TV sits on typical TV stand (60" wide). Flanking the TV and stand are two entertainment units/piers just under 6 ft. tall and just under two feet wide. Flanking the entertainment units are the M60s, placed on the floor as floorstanding speakers about 10 ft. apart on center. Spanning the distance between the entertainment units and directly above the TV is a shelf/bridge, supported by the two entertainment units. The center channel (currently a VP150) comfortably sits on this shelf/bridge, approximately 5.5 ft. high. I typically angle the VP150 downwards towards the seating area as it is a couple of feet above ear level and the height of the tweeters of my M60s.

This was the only arrangement possible before purchasing the new TV/stand as I had a CRT RPTV and could not mount the VP150 below the TV.

My plan is to replace the VP150 with the VP180 but I'm not sure the shelf can withstand an extra 30 lbs. over a long period of time. I think it'll initially hold but I'm scared that the shelf will give out over time and come crashing down onto my TV. I knew it was big and heavy when I ordered it but I thoughts I'd give it a try.

I suppose I now have the option of placing it on the TV stand but I'd have to build some kind of shelf to raise the TV above it. I'm not sure I like that idea as I just dropped a few hundred on the TV stand and I'm sure the wife would not be keen on some kind of home made shelf to raise the TV so I can accommodate some beastly speaker.

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icehawk21 #328142 11/12/10 03:50 AM
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Bryan, be confident! I bet that your TV won't be "quivering" one bit!

Edit: but just in case it is, Dean's suggestion of adding a reinforcing section to the "bridge" seems to make sense.

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Re: Scared of my VP180
icehawk21 #328143 11/12/10 03:53 AM
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One possibility: build a shelf that has plenty of wood to mount to 2 or 3 studs, that's flat against the wall, then a shelf that angles down towards the listening area that has a sturdy lip at the bottom that holds the speaker in place without fear of falling.
Either Paint the shelf the same color as the wall, or to match the speaker or other wood work in the room.

The lip: metal that's screwed into the shelf in an L fashon, running full length of shelf that then goes up enough to keep speaker from falling, yet allows the magnetic grill to stay in place.


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Re: Scared of my VP180
icehawk21 #328144 11/12/10 03:53 AM
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W/o a picture I’m assuming you think the shelf itself will collapse but not the entertainment units? If that’s the case can’t you just add another piece of wood across the top of the bridge that spans the full length of the entertainment units to beef up the bridge portion itself?


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Re: Scared of my VP180
grunt #328148 11/12/10 04:07 AM
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CatBrat - I'm not that skilled nor that brave to start building shelves as you've suggested. I'd love to have you over to build it, though - if you'd like to take a road-trip smile

grunt - no, not concerned about the entertainment units - just the shelf collapsing. It's kinda hard to explain without a picture. The shelf is pretty sturdy considering how it's attached to each entertainment unit. Not sure its 60lbs sturdy thought.

I am considering your idea, though. I'm also considering adding a brace that will sit behind the TV, using the TV stand as its support and running up to the shelf to support it from behind. This may also be beyond my wood-working skills but I think I might be able to find someone to help me out (like my father-in-law).

Or I could stack a few dozen pucks to use as a support. They're black and wouldn't be noticeable - and I think I'm skilled enought to stack pucks. That's hockey pucks for anyone wondering what a "puck" is smile I've only got a couple hundred sitting in my shed begging to be used.

Is the VP180 really worth the upgrade to go through the hassle of augmenting my shelf to support it? To be honest, aesthetically I still think I like the VP150. The VP180 looks so big smile Maybe I just need to get used to it.

One thing's for sure - I don't think I'll be able to squeeze this upgrade by my wife. There's no way she won't notice it immediately.

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