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No problems with the M80s, then?

None whatsoever.

Thank you all very much! Very sound advice. Buying used definitely makes sense.

I've been trying to gather all details on 1120 vs 1020 (vs anything else...)

So far I see three features, pqls, video upscaling and PC control. I'm not sure if I get anything out of them. Do you use them much Henry66?

(Apologize if this topic has already been discussed, if so I'd appreciate a pointer to it please!)

The PQLS on the 1120 is for all channels, on the 1020 is it the stereo mains only. Note that PQLS only works with compatible Pioneer Blu-ray players.

The video upscaling in the 1120 is FAR superior to that in the 1020. It's the new Marvell QDEO chip that's contending for the crown from Anchor Bay. If you're using analog, or any HDMI source less than 1080p going into a 1080p display, this could be worth the difference right here.

The DACs in the 1020 are from Wolfson, the 1120 uses Burr Brown. Burr Brown is a little more respected by the audiophile community. Not sure if the differences between them are audible, but they can be shown on laboratory equipment.

Also note that the 1120 is 17" deep vs the 15" of the 1020. This is due to the better amps, but may be a drawback if your space is limited. It's also a half inch taller, and 6 and a half pounds heavier.

Don't forget to add 2-3 inches for cables behind the receiver...

ClubNeon, thank you very very much. I was trying to find so much detail on the differences the last couple of days. You put it very well.

The 1120's have better amps? That's the only thing that would matter to me. Can anyone please help me with details/data on that?

(I don't use any analog video, have a PS3 for all playback, and I don't think the DACs would matter to me)

I looked up on used vsx-1019, but not much savings in $s compare to 1020...

Yeah, Pioneer calls the class of amps used in their Elite gear, "Advanced Direct Energy", vs the normal "Direct Energy" of the rest of their line. While the big label may say 110 vs 120 Watts, the finer print tells a bit more of a story. The 1020 falls down to 80 Watts when reproducing broadband noise (20 to 20k Hz), but the 1120 can still pull off 110 Watts. The amp and power supply design of the 1120 is a level above the 1020.

I have a 1018, I'm glad I got it before the 1019 was introduced. Pioneer really just removed useful features (like pre-outs) from the 1019, to add less useful things (iPhone control). The 1020 still lacks pre-outs, but at least it has gained a few new tricks. The 1120 does have pre-outs, so if you're never not satisfied with the built-in amps, you can hook up external ones, via RCA cable.

Sound to me like the 1120 is indeed a better reeciver than it's predecessor, I would buy it.