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Hello! I'm considering gettings some M22's to use with my computer. I use the computer for about everything (games, music, movies) and am looking to upgrade from my old hand-me-down Bose. I have a few questions though. My room is pretty small, about 10x10 or maybe 12x12, which is why im not just jumping strait into the M80's or something of that nature. So first question, would the M22's be ideal for that size of room, or should I go with something bigger/smaller? Second question. Some of the reviews say that the M22's dont provide alot of bass, so I am considering an EP125 to go with them. Problem is, I cant see any reviews for the 125. Anyone able to tell me if the EP125 couples well with the M22's, and again, if I should go bigger for the room size? 3rd question. What is a relativly cheap reciever to get that would work well with that above set up? I dont need it to be bare bones cheap, but im looking to save on cost where I can. 4th and final question! Eventually, I would like to have the M80's with a nice sub and center bar. Would the m22's do well as back speakers for a 5.1 system? Thanks in advance for the help guys, im new to the whole home theatre thing and am trying to do it right the first time! :p **Edit** I would like to note, that when I do finally upgrade to some M80's, I will not be in the same small 10x10 room  10' x 10'? Has anyone suggested you get 4 M80s and a VP180 center channel? The M22s are terrific. You can find some very nice 2 channel stereo receivers for a song, because everyone thinks they want multichannel (you can get 5.1 multichannel receivers for a song as well). I'm not familiar with the EP125, but I wouldn't get one either. You can get a pair of M3s and a cheap sub for the price of a pair of M22s. If you don't want to spring for a sub at this point, then I'd get the M3s instead of the M22s. G'luck
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The OP already purchased M80s and a EP350.
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Is there a post explaining crossovers? I get the general idea.. SO for the M22, if it's set to 60 Hz, then any lower frequency would be cut off and sent to the sub. Conversely, for the sub... if it's set at 60Hz, then any frequency higher than that will be left for the M22? Is this an accurate understanding?
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Pretty much. The crossover is not a brick wall but rolls off so a little bit lower than the crossover makes it through the speakers and vice versa. I find the M22's sound great with 80hz and have run them full range (large setting) and they still sound great but not quite as clean. I don't recall ever running them at 60 or 100hz,..... hmmmmm might have to try that for a change from the M80s.
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The OP already purchased M80s and a EP350. I guess I should have read the entire thread. I was kidding when I asked whether anyone suggested 4 M80s for a 10' x 10' room. The speakers should pretty much fill that room up.
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Frue, welcome. Yes, that's pretty much the way that the crossover works, except, as Jason pointed out, the frequencies are steeply rolled off above and below the crossover frequency rather than being completely cut off.
To avoid some confusion, Onkyo did away with the "large/small" language a few years ago and your 605 uses "full band" instead of "large" when there's no crossover. Setting a crossover frequency has the result of the former "small" setting.
My M22s are crossed at 80Hz to my EP500, and this gives excellent results, being high enough to take a significant low bass load off the M22s so that they can play higher frequencies a bit more cleanly while the sub handles what it does best. On the other hand, 80Hz is low enough so that the sub isn't easily localizable when playing those lower frequencies.
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Thanks John. I experimented with 60 and 80. I find that 60 seems to sound a bit more full and round, but at the expense of "clean" and crisp upper range as you indicated. I also "upped" my sub setting from -5 to -4, and that seems to add a bit more satisfying punch.
What is the general opinion of the audyssey automatic set-up? I don't have a centre channel yet. Was thinking of getting the VP150 to pair up.
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It is a bit of a hit and miss with Audyssey, some prefer it and some don't, let your ears be the judge.
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Listen to Jason (jakewash) and you be the judge. You paid for the feature so try it and tweak it as you see fit to see how you like it.
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