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#33062 - 02/04/04 08:02 PM Bi-wireability
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I am looking into the M60 Tower speakers and the description says that they're "bi-wirable and bi-ampable". I have never dealt with this kind of wiring, let alone a speaker setup of this caliber so I have a few questions. I am not concerned about the bi-ampable ability, since I am not going to use 2 amps, but what about the bi-wireability? How does this work in relation to the reciever? Would I need a special kind of reciever? Currently I'm looking at the H/K AVR 130-330 recievers.

TIA. (BTW, would the H/K reciever and the M60's be a good match?)


Edited by knuckles (02/04/04 08:11 PM)

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#33063 - 02/04/04 08:17 PM Re: Bi-wireability
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Don't bother. It's another audio sham. The only reason (I think) Axiom includes the capability is because some audiophiles expect and demand it. I'll let someone else fill in the details. And you will get other opinions.

The H/K and the M60s should be fine. Also, you should look closer to the higher end of your receiver spectrum (330), as the lower end H/K receivers lack some basic functions, such as changeable crossover settings.
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#33064 - 02/04/04 08:22 PM Re: Bi-wireability
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WOW! You can't change the crossovers? Ouch! I can get the AVR-330 for $470 from a reputable retailer, so it's not a problem.

Thanx for your help! Very speedy reply for a relatively small forum

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#33065 - 02/04/04 08:35 PM Re: Bi-wireability
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Oh, it's bigger than you might think... Also, I'm on a lot. Now, my data on the low end H/Ks is a bit old (haven't looked at the 130, 230), but the old 125 and 225 were that way. I also haven't looked at the 330, so be careful there. You can also pick up a refurb 525 for around $500 from an authorized reseller such as onecall.com or from H/K themselves on eBay.
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#33066 - 02/04/04 08:38 PM Re: Bi-wireability
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Knuck, welcome, and don't be concerned about bi-wiring(aka "buy-wiring"). Some speakers have two sets of input terminals, but this is essentially a concession to a misguided fashion. The only significant electrical difference is that using two wires is equivalent to using one wire three gauge numbers lower(e.g. two 16ga biwires equal a single 13ga wire). There's no special separation of signals that takes place; both wires coming into the speaker, if bi-wired, carry full-frequency. The separation takes place in the crossover inside the speaker and it doesn't matter how many wires there are before the crossover.

The HK receivers would be fine, and there's no need to "match" receivers and speakers, but I'd suggest that you also give strong consideration to a receiver which has automatic room and speaker equalization(not just level calibration), such as the Yamaha 1400.
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#33067 - 02/04/04 09:09 PM Re: Bi-wireability
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Looks nice, but I don't know if I'll have room in my budget. I can always munually adjust the equalizers, as I have always preferred spending time researching, learning and preforming something complicated rather than buying something more expensive.

EDIT: Although the lip-sync delay, sound quality and sheer power (probably inflated as most power ratings are...but still, 110 watts at 4 ohms?!) are attractive.


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#33068 - 02/04/04 09:19 PM Re: Bi-wireability
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No, Knuck, you've misunderstood. I'm not referring to merely balancing the level settings. The HKs can do that automatically(EZ-Set). Equalization can't be done manually; there aren't any "equalizers" on most receivers.
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#33069 - 02/04/04 09:29 PM Re: Bi-wireability
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I see what you're saying...thanks for clarifying that. Although it was in your first post...my bad.


Edited by knuckles (02/04/04 09:30 PM)

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