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Re: Best match center channel for M22?
Philippe #334422 01/14/11 07:35 AM
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I should clarify in regards to my center channel statement - it appears that many members here don't think too much of the horizontally placed purpose-built center channel speakers. As it is, I have no way to vertically place the M22 above or below the screen (the screen is big, the room is small), so I'm pretty much forced to go with a horizontal mount or a much smaller speaker.

Thoughts on the VP100 vs VP150, particular in regards to timbre matching across the front stage?

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luma #334425 01/14/11 10:39 AM
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The VP100/150 and M2/M22 all use the same drivers thus have virtually perfect timber match. If you can't fit the shorter M2 as a center then either of the VP series you are looking at works very well.

I have been using my VP100 instead of my VP150 recently and I think I might prefer it over the 150 even though the 150 plays most male voices better, some seem to have a resonance to them that is not quite natural on the 150, IMO, but this could also be seating and room issues. I need to do more listening but I am sure you would be happy with either one of the VP series. smile


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jakewash #334433 01/14/11 02:38 PM
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I also think that in a room that size, either will work well. I totally understand the WAF approval but ultimately, when the lights are off, the only thing that matters is picture and sound, you don't see how good the room looks anymore so maybe it is worth to give it a second thought.


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Re: Best match center channel for M22?
luma #334437 01/14/11 03:04 PM
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Hi Luma,
I agree with Jason, I think either the VP-100 or 150 will work fine in your room.

In regard to vertical vs. horizontal centers, we are all trying to help you find the optimal solution for your room. I had a horizontal center for the past many years. After much research I recently decided to experiment with an M2 as a vertical center instead of my VP150 ( see this thread ) . Long story short, I preferred the M2. So based on the lesson I learned, I would tell anyone to try a vertical center if possible before they commit to a horizontal center. Now, if a vertical simply won't fit then there is no point discussing it and you should just move on to the VP series. Just wanted to clarify where we were coming from on the center channel discussion.

For the L&R side surrounds I believe you really will appreciate the QS series sound dispersion over the direct radiators. No opinion from me for the back surrounds I can see how either might work.

Good luck and keep us posted on what you decide to do.


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cb919 #334454 01/14/11 04:37 PM
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Lots of discussion regarding this topic lately and I like to say thanks! Come springtime I'm switching over to onwalls but I'm not sure which configuration? Ideally 3 22's across the front would be my choice but I'd need to raise my display for proper placement of the 22, if I go that route? Having read all these thread and peoples opinions have helped...well sort of. blush

Regards, Bill... smile




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billy p #334455 01/14/11 04:43 PM
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Don't raise your display to an uncomfortable hight, just to fit a speaker under it. Your eyes should fall 1/3 of the way up the screen measured from the bottom. The tweeters of the left and right speakers should also be on that line (your ears are roughly level with your eyes). Then just place the center as high as you can under the screen.


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Re: Best match center channel for M22?
ClubNeon #334457 01/14/11 05:03 PM
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+1 to what Chris said. That's exactly how I planned my theater based on the professional advice I received (I wasn't on this forum back then).

That's also why I went with an M2 instead of an M22 when changing my center channel - the M22 just won't fit well unless I raise my display which I don't want to do.


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cb919 #334459 01/14/11 06:16 PM
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Yeah...when I first installed my display I had accounted for that with my current set up. It sure sounds like the consenus of opinion here slightly favor the m2 over the vp150 due to its dispersion level and/or range is better for dialouge over the vp150 outside the primary sitting area. We've all read to varying degrees the benefit to going that route. In all honesty, I hadn't given it much thought...only untill recently have I started to ween that way... cool.

Re: Best match center channel for M22?
billy p #334460 01/14/11 06:50 PM
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I plan on replacing my VP100 with a boxy M2 sometime soon. I placed my TV where my eyes fall at the 50% mark and this is where I like it. Lately, I've been siting in an office chair with my feet propped up and my eyes are about 4 feet away. (Poor mans big screen).

Re: Best match center channel for M22?
CatBrat #334592 01/16/11 08:44 AM
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First, I'd like to give a big thanks to everyone that's responded here, you've been a great help!

I've decided on the VP150, along with QS4s for the surrounds. Just poured the leveling compound in the room today and will get started with laying flooring tomorrow. I'll post pics when everything is in it's place!

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