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#334505 - 01/15/11 01:42 AM Money for Nothing banned in Canada?
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Seriously?

I mean, I don't want to go on a rant here or anything, but if this is true, it's PC run amok.

Censoring art, especially music, is just not cool, man.


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#334507 - 01/15/11 01:57 AM Re: Money for Nothing banned in Canada? [Re: tomtuttle]
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I guess old reruns of All in the Family will never be seen either. Oh the times they are a changin.
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#334508 - 01/15/11 01:59 AM Re: Money for Nothing banned in Canada? [Re: SirQuack]
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Gotta say, I wince every time I hear that line (and I always have), but I love the song, and I love Mark Knopfler.
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#334513 - 01/15/11 09:21 AM Re: Money for Nothing banned in Canada? [Re: Ken.C]
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"Canada has broad human-rights policies".

HA! Yeah, equal opportunity exists; give me a break.

Anyway, here's an article from the Toronto Sun -Gay celebs weigh in on censor .

I will say that the thought that the word nigger (used by a black person) is somehow analogous with the word faggot (used by a heterosexual person), is wrong. The former was the intended target of the word they're using, but the latter is someone of a different sexual orientation.

That aside, I do think it's unfortunate that words hurt people (there's an ideal that needs to be abolished). But, I do think it's important to not use words that could possibly offend someone, if only one person; it's just humane.

On censoring the song, the movie is blatantly wrong, and censorship sucks! Enough said!
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#334518 - 01/15/11 10:24 AM Re: Money for Nothing banned in Canada? [Re: Ya_basta]
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So let's get rid of the word "faggot", we'll say "homo" instead. Once "homo" get's used too much we'll ban that and use another word or phrase ect....the *context of what is said, is far more important than the words themselves.
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#334520 - 01/15/11 10:44 AM Re: Money for Nothing banned in Canada? [Re: Adrian]
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Banning songs because of the use of the word faggot is so gay. Tipper Gore is laughing somewhere right now.
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#334522 - 01/15/11 11:11 AM Re: Money for Nothing banned in Canada? [Re: BlueJays1]
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Just another example of to much government in people lives. Soon to happen here given they way things have been the past couple decades.
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#334525 - 01/15/11 12:14 PM Re: Money for Nothing banned in Canada? [Re: Wid]
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Originally Posted By: wid

Just another example of to much government in people lives.


Yep. Although, the limitations of state power rest in the hands of it's populace.

When the majority are sheep...........
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#334527 - 01/15/11 12:20 PM Re: Money for Nothing banned in Canada? [Re: Ken.C]
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Gotta say, I wince every time I hear that line (and I always have)

I always have, too, Ken.

But I don't deny that I used the word when I was a kid, and every other kid I know did also.

Regarding the song, I hear it being said in this context of the lyrics: "I'm acting like a child because you're getting everything handed to you and it's all coming easy for you, so I'm jealous and angry".

In other words, I hear it like Knopfler is a character and didn't write the lyrics first-person.

Archie Bunker said things that also made me wince, but I don't hold Carrol O'Connor responsible, because he's playing a character who, by using such rhetoric, forces us to confront issues.

Anyway, because of that, the lyric doesn't bother me in the same way it would as if said with venom.
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#334529 - 01/15/11 01:00 PM Re: Money for Nothing banned in Canada? [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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I agree with you, Mark, it's definitely an in character song.

Perhaps the sensible alternative would be bleeping or otherwise obscuring it for radio play. And yes, I do see that word as equivalent to the n-word, and I would be shocked (and appalled) if I heard that on the radio in a song by a white person.

And yes, I ran around as a kid quoting the line from Blazing Saddles "A laurel, and hardy handshake for our new town... " as a kid until my mother mentioned that it just might not be the best thing to say.
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