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Re: Qs8 placement with room size change.
SirQuack #334664 01/17/11 03:32 PM
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Randy I'd use a proper size butt connector, fill it with dielectric grease and then either use heat shrink tubing or electrical tape. You could use just about any type of electrical connector that most anybody would carry.


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Re: Qs8 placement with room size change.
SirQuack #334665 01/17/11 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: sirquack
Since my side surrounds are moving forward a bit from their current location, I will need to add/splice some extra wire to my existing wiring. What is the best way to do this? I assume you would twist them togethor and then maybe use some of the rubber/shrink stuff to lock them togethor?

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I'd still use some dielectric grease myself though.


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Re: Qs8 placement with room size change.
RickF #334666 01/17/11 03:39 PM
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I'm seeing that with butt connectors, the copper from each wire is not touching, is that why you say use dialectric grease? What if you twist the wires togethor well, and just use the shrink tubing? Or will that not give me a secure connection? since this will be inwall I want to do it right.

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Re: Qs8 placement with room size change.
SirQuack #334669 01/17/11 03:46 PM
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A butt connector is a small aluminum tube with a plastic cover, whenever you crimp the butt connector onto the wire the metal of the butt connector itself conducts the electricity or whatever current you have ... the dielectric grease is non-conductive and only helps the connection to avoid moisture and corrosion. We use dielectric grease on each and every electrical connection on our airplanes and I've made it a habit to use it almost any time I'm doing any type of electrical connection around the house.

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Re: Qs8 placement with room size change.
SirQuack #334675 01/17/11 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted By: sirquack

Our basement foundation is called Ice Block which is an insulated concrete form. Many home builders used this now in place of standard concrete poured in forms, that are removed after the concrete sets.

Basically, you have insulated foam on the inside and outside, with an 8" void in the middle that is filled with concrete. There is rebar placed vertically and horizontally within the void. There is a 2" wide plastic strip about every 12" where you can screw into like you would a stud for hanging things. You don't have to put up any framing, the drywall screws right to it.... the R value for efficiency is way above a standard poured foundation.





Randy, I've seen this before. Did you purchase the house brand new? I'm just curious of the extra expense (maybe a percentage).

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Re: Qs8 placement with room size change.
Ya_basta #334676 01/17/11 06:07 PM
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Randy, re bare wiring the QS8s and using the T-brackets, it's no biggie. Just bare wire to the posts as normal, but make sure the clips engage with the T-bracket because the wires want to push the speaker away from the wall. As I've mentioned a few times before, the easiest method is to bend the mating clips on the bracket slightly to help guide the adjoining clips.


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Re: Qs8 placement with room size change.
Adrian #334677 01/17/11 06:11 PM
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I used a bare wire connection with my qs8's which are mounted flat against the wall with the supplied t bracket. I don't think there would be room for any other connection, unless sometype of recessed wall plate was used.


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Re: Qs8 placement with room size change.
terzaghi #334682 01/17/11 06:38 PM
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For you folks near the ocean dielectric grease is required but for the rest of us without the huge moisture problems it is less of a requirement.

For a permanent connection I would solder the splice in and then use heat shrink to seal it up.


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Re: Qs8 placement with room size change.
jakewash #334684 01/17/11 06:52 PM
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Hey Cam, we had this house built about 10yrs ago and the builder only used this type of foundation. I can't tell you the cost difference off hand, but I recall the advantages outweighed what ever increase in cost there might be. I'm sure today as more builders use this the cost may have come down, it was kinda new back then...


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Re: Qs8 placement with room size change.
SirQuack #334704 01/17/11 10:54 PM
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Just make sure there is no stool showing from that butt connection.

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