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Re: Got this great deal on MK750's
alan #337413 02/07/11 10:49 PM
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Ok,

I agree with Alan on the THX and royalty scheme. I however think that it has it's merits in that certain requirements have to be achived.
I only put "THX" in the name becasue thats the full name of the speaker.

All I am saying is I have heard the MK750's a few years ago and loved the sound. They blend together really nice as they are identical. What I wasn't sure of is "if" I should go with a set of 750's for the rear back channels or would a QS8 be better for movies.
I have owned the M80's and VP150 before, however there was a difference between the three speakers. Yes, I understand the VP180 is now out and probably is very close to the same tonal quality as the M80 given they run the same drivers and same size cabinets.
I am not disagreeing with anyone here.
What I am saying is I know if I had 7 Axiom's things would be great. Actually if I had enough money now for M80's all around life be excellent.
I understand what you said about the MK Surr55's and di-pole.
However I have not heard the Surr55's and I do not have $1500 laying around to waste to try them out. SO, yes my next choice is QS8.
All I wanted to know is if I ran the 750's up front, what would be my best option. the MK surr 55 for the side rear and another MK750 for the back rears. However, taking your reply on the second quote I will not go forward with this. So, now I am at either re-selling the MK's because,as sirquack says only all Axioms would match like 7 M22's.

Sorry, but if I have my choice of three fronts being MK 750's or three Axiom M22, I think the MK's are better. For Movies, not musically.
Now if you ask which I perfer the MK's or Axiom M80, well depending on if they're used for movie or music. The MK's with a good Sub ...I am not sure what I would like for movies better. as both are cutoff at 80 hz. However I do not like a sub for music, so therefore the M80's hands down.
I believe that good bookshelf speakers with a good matching sub, are better sounding for movies and I mean two subs, than a floorstanding. I really think after 60hz all is wasted with the floorstanding .... " with movies "

I listen to rock/POp music and from what I know Bass drums, bass guitars and the low notes on a piano do not get down much lower than 35hz. SO ,why the need of a sub .... then again maybe a 35hz kick drum note on the M80's would come out as a whisper, hence a sub to bring up the 35hz volumn level.

Alan, I have read a great deal of your posts and you are always honest and unbias in your opinions whether your talking about Axiom, MK, or Paradigm. I respect that and well I guess the Surr55 and 750 I will put to rest.

Maybe I will throw those mk's in the car why I go to Ontario this summer and see which is better in Movies the MK's or a VP180 and Two M80's. If so, I will have a series of MK750 for sale. maybe a trade for a VP180 ? lol


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Re: Got this great deal on MK750's
alan #337414 02/07/11 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: alan

In passing, the M80 floorstanders have useful output in a room to about 25 Hz. For the record, the only instruments with significant content below 30 Hz are the concert grand piano (28 Hz for all but one Austrian model with extra keys at 16 Hz); large pipe organ, 16 Hz, but the latter is very low level and the 2nd harmonic at 32 Hz is much stronger; and orchestral bass drum, depending on the diameter of the drum.


Yup, this is what I tried to say so really I only listen to pop/rock having a sub is useless if the M80's can do this. Which is why I want the M80's for music video or cd's.


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Re: Got this great deal on MK750's
axiom_man #337426 02/08/11 12:08 AM
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As long as you are happy with what ever speakers you have that is what counts. I think we were just trying to figure out some of the things you had said, such as above, the M22 are better for music but not for movies? Not sure how this can be, from my experience if a speaker is good with music it easily handles HT, but I have never heard MK's. I think that center is odd with the tweeter off to one side, like a normal speaker set on edge, I would think dispersion would be an issue with this design.

I will reiterate my first point, no matter what any of us say, enjoy your system as it is yours and you are the one listening to it and for that price a nice sounding system is hard to find. smile


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Re: Got this great deal on MK750's
SirQuack #337436 02/08/11 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: sirquack
Then why did you ask the question if you knew the answer about matchine speakers, usually a ? means your asking a question, sorry.


well, sorry guess I was looking for a more professional opinion


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Re: Got this great deal on MK750's
axiom_man #337438 02/08/11 01:48 AM
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I believe the tweeter is off set only with the Left and right speakers not the centre.
what I mean by better musically is that the M22 frequency resp goes from 50hz up. Whereas, the MK's only drop to 80hz. Reason is for a bookshelf this is where a sub would take over. Therefore if the speaker doesn't have to reproduce below 80 then there would be less distortion and a cleaner sound. Why produce it if the sub will much easier and cleaner.
I think as Alan said they should blend nice with the QS8's and will try them out.


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Re: Got this great deal on MK750's
axiom_man #337445 02/08/11 02:16 AM
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M&K might have very well designed a center like that. I've seen similar center designs with the offset tweeter from former M&K sound engineers.


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Re: Got this great deal on MK750's
BlueJays1 #337725 02/10/11 01:24 AM
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The pics I saw from the sales panphlet I downloaded showed the center channel with the tweeter off to one side just like the main was laid on its side.


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Re: Got this great deal on MK750's
jakewash #337730 02/10/11 01:52 AM
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They are left, right specific speakers I would upload a picture but, cannot see how to do it. But the tweeter is dead centre on the Left right and centre


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Re: Got this great deal on MK750's
axiom_man #337731 02/10/11 01:55 AM
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I know what your talking about now ..... T/W/W but the tweeter is angled slightly


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Re: Got this great deal on MK750's
axiom_man #337757 02/10/11 04:38 AM
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Correct, just seems odd, but I am sure it sounds fine due to that angling of the tweeter, otherwise they never would have made them.


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