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Re: Help choosing an in-wall component rack/shelf.
Kruncher #339379 02/21/11 10:31 PM
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Again, thanks for the help guys.

The cables are manufactured with the connectors on them, but it's always a possibility that they weren't crimped properly from the get go.

Something else I just came across is that you shouldn't apply a lot of pressure when pulling network cables. Apparently, 25 pounds is the most they can handle, but I don't know how much truth there is to that.

I'll see if I can find where I read that.


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Re: Help choosing an in-wall component rack/shelf.
Ya_basta #339381 02/21/11 10:52 PM
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Here's the article that lists the do's and dont's.

From that list, the things that I could've done wrong, that I can think of, are-

-Using a shielded cable.

-Possibly stretched the cable.

-Running them parallel to the power lines is affecting them (I was told by a customer support representative of a well known and well respected cable manufacturer that this wouldn't be an issue).

Any suggestions?

Just thinking of all the possibilities before I have to rally some troops (not easy) to take the TV off the wall. I want to know everything that should be tested, while it is.


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Ya_basta #339387 02/22/11 12:48 AM
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Wait, you purchased these cables ("they were manufactured that way..") or did you make them yourself?

CAT6 is much more difficult to make at home (to spec) so you have to pay close attention. If you are going to make them yourself (and are not experience in making cables), I would suggest EZ Jacks. About as fool proof as you can get.


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Hansang #339388 02/22/11 01:07 AM
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I purchased the exact cables I linked to (from that website). Manufactured as the picture shows (with connectors).


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Re: Help choosing an in-wall component rack/shelf.
Ya_basta #339410 02/22/11 04:26 AM
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I was thinking of using something like this one. Seems to get pretty decent reviews from folks.

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INANE #339424 02/22/11 12:24 PM
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Thanks, bud. That's the one I have, but I purchased it from a different retailer.


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Ya_basta #339450 02/22/11 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: wheelz999

Because I had to run the cables a distance of 35 feet, I opted to run HDMI over Cat 6.


Slightly off topic--why does a distance of 35' influence someone's to choose HDMI over CAT 6?

Just curious. I've got a 40' HDMI cable that works perfectly.

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speedbump #339488 02/22/11 06:53 PM
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From the research that I have done, HDMI is a really poorly designed cable, and it should be limited to short lengths because of signal degradation. There's all kinds of discussions surrounding this topic on AVS and many other websites.


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Ya_basta #339495 02/22/11 07:02 PM
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Yeah, HDMI was poorly designed. But some makers have stepped up and built really good quality cables to limit the design flaws.

I've yet to see an HDMI over Ethernet box that has really impressed me. HDMI 1.3 requires 10 Gb of throughput. It's hard enough to get Cat6 to do 1 Gbps cleanly. 10 Gbps over copper Ethernet only happens with good equipment under good conditions.

You can easily do 35' with a quality HDMI cable.


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ClubNeon #339511 02/22/11 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: ClubNeon
You can easily do 35' with a quality HDMI cable.


Chris, I did some reading on Blue Jean Cables website yesterday regarding the quality of their Belden 1 HDMI cable, and it appears that it will do the job.

However, I have come across other posts on forums stating that all HDMI cables of a given gauge will pass the same quality of signal. I don't know how much truth there is to this because I've read other comments from people lauding the quality of Blue Jean Cables HDMI cables.

It's all very confusing.

Here's an interesting discussion on AVS regarding improving the signal of HDMI Over CatX. There are some great devices that supposedly function well, but even adding the less expensive ones really jack the price up close to a 35' Belden 1 cable


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