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#340299 - 02/27/11 12:14 PM On wall crossover settings?
TonyN Offline
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Hello folks, got a question. As I stated in a few other posts, I recently setup a Axiom on-wall setup and I love it (M22's, VP150 and QS8's). I know the on walls aren't axioms most popular/best speakers but they accommodate my setup perfectly. I think they look and sound fantastic.

I have never heard any other speakers from Axiom to compare too, but I hear/read that the lows/mids from the on walls isn't quite on par with the bookshelves. True or false?

I am just curious where you "on wall" guys have your crossover settings? Right now I have everything crossed over at 100hz. With my old setup I crossed over at 80hz and it seemed to "blend a little better with the sub. Are the on walls flat down to 80hz or should I continue to use the 100hz?

info on the on wall stuff is kind of hard to come by. So thanks for any info!

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#340300 - 02/27/11 12:21 PM Re: On wall crossover settings? [Re: TonyN]
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You are on the correct path TonyN starting with a 100hz crossover setting. Do a comparison of 100hz and 80hz with a variety of music and some movie scenes (back to back) and pick which setting you think sounds best blended with the subwoofer.

Have fun!
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#340301 - 02/27/11 01:22 PM Re: On wall crossover settings? [Re: BlueJays1]
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I did a comparison side/side of the onwall 22's and regular m22's. The regular M22's put out more bass bacause of the larger cabinet, and I settled on a 80hz crossover. The onwall 22's sounded very close in the upper and mid frequencies. For me a 100-120hz crossover worked best for me.
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#340308 - 02/27/11 02:45 PM Re: On wall crossover settings? [Re: SirQuack]
CatBrat Offline
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Well, I was just the opposite. I found I liked the sound with the on-walls better set to Large with no crossover. You might try that just to see what you think.

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#340325 - 02/27/11 05:32 PM Re: On wall crossover settings? [Re: CatBrat]
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If you have a sub in the mix your speakers should be set to small, even m80s.
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#340351 - 02/27/11 10:09 PM Re: On wall crossover settings? [Re: SirQuack]
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I had a sub in the mix. I still liked them better at large. There was a definite hole in the mix with them set to small. I know, not on paper graphically, but to my ears.


Edited by CatBrat (02/27/11 10:26 PM)

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#340357 - 02/28/11 12:18 AM Re: On wall crossover settings? [Re: CatBrat]
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I actually liked my M22 bookshelf speakers better set to large when I had my old crappy sub playing with them. I found they blended better this way, once I upgraded my sub I found I liked them better set to small with an 80hz crossover.
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#340372 - 02/28/11 08:27 AM Re: On wall crossover settings? [Re: jakewash]
TonyN Offline
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Thanks for the info. I am going to do some tweaking this week.

Another quick question. What cable do I need to go from the analog out on my radioshack spl meter to my laptop? Do I want to plug it into the mic input?

Also, is it a must to connect the laptop to my reciever to send the test tones? Or can I just run the ones off my disney wow disc and use the spl meter/laptop to record?

Thanks!

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#340437 - 02/28/11 08:10 PM Re: On wall crossover settings? [Re: TonyN]
jakewash Offline
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Are you trying to run REW or some other Frequency program?

You would hook up an RCA terminated cable from the RS meter to your mic input on the laptop, but most onboard sound cards are not very good and you may find the readings are not even close to accurate.
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#340442 - 02/28/11 09:44 PM Re: On wall crossover settings? [Re: TonyN]
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Tony, the usual procedure is to simply use the internal test tones that the receiver outputs and either use the auto-calibration feature of the receiver, if it has one, or the separate SPL meter for a manual calibration. No computer or separate test tone disc is needed for this.
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