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Re: Small Car recommendations...
tomtuttle #414649 09/25/15 02:44 PM
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Mazda 3? Chevy Cruze, Tom?


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a401classic #414650 09/25/15 02:50 PM
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I'm glad Scott is so happy with his Ford and I hope it stays that way. It's always the same story; I had that car, it was a POS. I had that same car for 180k before I sold it and it was great. I have a friend with a 2001 Buick that his Dad bought new. It has over 130k and has never had a major repair. People do get lucky.

I know people who have had very bad experiences with late model Fords, Kias and VW's. My ersatz stepdaughter, only a month ago, had to invoke our state's lemon law to get rid of her problem-plagued Focus. She got a Huyndai.

Remember, unlike Honda or Toyota or Datsun, Huyndai and Kia arrived on our shores as jokes. It took Huyndai over two decades to gain respectability for their products. Kia's not quite there yet, but they're doing it at a faster pace than Huyndai did.

If you hadn't been so selfish, Tom, and bought a two-seater for yourself, maybe Julie wouldn't have had to drive a tank until now and you wouldn't be in this situation.

I kinda don't think I have to ask, but would you tell that line to Julie for me, please? Thx.


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Adrian #414652 09/25/15 03:32 PM
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Don't listen to Bob. He drives a freakin' hearse.


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tomtuttle #414653 09/25/15 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted By tomtuttle
Yes, I think the Sonata is probably "too big". Remember - I'm trying to find something "fun like a Mini Cooper" but somewhat more practical and more reliable. So, ANY kind of mid- or large-size sedan is going to be a pretty tough sell.

Mike D - you're a big help. I can't believe it took you this long to provide such sensible and obvious solutions. I'm holding out for the Ariel Atom station wagon.


I do try.

In all serious, you said you want fun and small. Have you considered a 370Z? Many of the guys who are serious track rats own them for daily drivers, and are always going on and on about what a great bang for buck car they are - performance wise.

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Adrian #414654 09/25/15 05:08 PM
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I love this thread. You guys are awesome.

Scott - I'm glad to hear about your Focus. I'm eager to drive one, and most people not-related-to-Bob seem to like them. I think the RS will be too expensive and too new.

Adrian - Yeah, I still need to find the "right" Mazda 3. I haven't given up hope on that one, yet. It seems like if you get the 2.5l with a stick it would be a good match. Mazda's seem to always come in 2nd when I'm looking for a new vehicle. I don't think I can buy a GM product. Plus, I have "that friend" who invoked the Lemon Law on a Cruze. I guess the puzzle is finding a car that nobody you know has an apocalyptic story about. I guess maybe I should stop talking to people.

Bob - I'm pretty sure that Julie knows the score and is too kind to point it out. We're both politely ignoring it. I will pass along your message verbatim anyway. She'll probably just say "yes". When it comes down to it, I'd be very surprised if I committed that much money to a Kia. I am somewhat swayed by the many positive impressions here and elsewhere on Hyundai. So weird.

Mike - I think a 370Z (or variant with similar drivetrain) is a possibility, but I really do want to get something with at least a pretend back seat. Will add to the list, as I know it will be fun to drive one again. Last time, the soft top and lack of headroom in the sunroof model were deal-breakers for me, but Julie has a different set of criteria. Plus - and I know this sounds petty - I just f**king hated the door handles.

It is a fun journey. I guess we're looking for a compact sports car.

At the recent Foo Fighters show in Portland, Dave Grohl often had staff "turn up the house lights so I can see the people". During one of these chautauqua moments, he was reflecting on the long tenure of his current band and what that has done to the demographic for their shows and their target audience. So, he points at a guy close to the stage and says something to the effect of "...like that motherf**ker right there. I'll bet you own a minivan, don't you? Yeah! What kind? Honda Odyssey?! Me too! It's the best one!"

So, Michael (Homedad), Bob and Mark, you guys are like rock stars.


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Adrian #414656 09/25/15 07:20 PM
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You're just realizing this?


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MarkSJohnson #414658 09/25/15 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted By MarkSJohnson
Don't listen to Bob. He drives a freakin' hearse.

Win. Thanks for coming out Bob.


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fredk #414659 09/25/15 11:37 PM
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Hmm, 200 hp Veloster turbo for $27900 or 332 hp 370Z for $29900. Tough choice.

Too bad the Honda CRZ didn't have a little more zip. It reminds me of the old CRI.


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Re: Small Car recommendations...
Adrian #414665 09/26/15 12:39 PM
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I think you are comparing apples to oranges Fred, as the Genesis coupe would be more appropriate - it has 348hp and starts @ $29900.

I don't think many companies make the "hot hatchback" anymore, and those that do command a pretty penny for them!

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fredk #414666 09/26/15 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted By fredk
Originally Posted By MarkSJohnson
Don't listen to Bob. He drives a freakin' hearse.

Win. Thanks for coming out Bob.


First, can we all agree, no Charlie Sheenisms?

Actually, I went looking at a new Prius last week. So not me, but anyone who thinks gas is staying down here is an abject moron.

Large vehicle sales are really high right now, because of gas prices and dumb people. A Prius used to be a no-bargaining purchase. Not now, so I thought I'd consider it.

They start at 25k and top out at 35k, yikes!


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