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Re: VaSSallo
BobKay #345144 04/15/11 05:01 PM
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Just to get into more political hell here, fetal stem cells are derived from fertilized eggs shortly after they begin dividing. A proposed source of these is unused embryos from infertility treatments. Abortion (by the more traditional definition) does not enter into this.


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Ken.C #345146 04/15/11 05:27 PM
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The real idea with stem cells, is to figure out a source in an adult body, or how to trick specialized cells to become stem cells again. Taking cells from another person to grow an organ (or to a less extent, tooth) isn't ideal, because of compatibility issues.

The ultimate goal is to do something like this: You need a new liver, so some fat is exacted from your body. The fat cells are coaxed into a stem cell state, and then directed into becoming a liver, which is then implanted (not transplanted) in place of your failing one. There will be no need for anti-rejection drugs, because you body will accept the liver as its own.


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ClubNeon #345150 04/15/11 06:00 PM
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That would sure be nice for my sister. She has a kid's kidney in her right now. Dialysis was a huge inconvenience, and anti-rejection meds don't sound like the best time, either. Either way, her treatments rely on a working healthcare system in a working government, two things that may become unreliable. One of my former coworkers who came from Bosnia said she remembered the first people to die were the ones with failed/transplanted kidneys. Very painful way to die, too, apparently. So, yeah, fingers crossed on being able to grow another one of her own at some point.

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CV #345170 04/15/11 07:28 PM
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I'm going to put some stem cells in my wallet.


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Adrian #345171 04/15/11 07:33 PM
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VaSSallo >>>>> Stem Cells?????????

This is like Freudian psychotherapy.

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BobKay #345173 04/15/11 07:39 PM
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There goes Bob...gett'n all Freudy Toidy again.


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Adrian #345175 04/15/11 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: Adrian
I'm going to put some stem cells in my wallet.

They'll just dry out like that 6-year-old condom you carry. grin


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Originally Posted By: ClubNeon
The ultimate goal is to do something like this: You need a new liver, so some fat is exacted from your body. The fat cells are coaxed into a stem cell state, and then directed into becoming a liver

So I end up with a 42lb liver that needs Weight Watchers?


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BobKay #345180 04/15/11 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: KingBob
VaSSallo >>>>> Stem Cells?????????

This is like Freudian psychotherapy.

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MarkSJohnson #345183 04/15/11 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: Adrian
I'm going to put some stem cells in my wallet.

They'll just dry out like that 6-year-old condom you carry. grin

HaHa! well...you're half right...it's actually 12 yrs old!


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