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Re: Any reason i should use a sub with the M80's?
axiom_man #345256 04/16/11 09:30 PM
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Hi,

The subwoofer model to select should be based on the volume of the entire room including adjacent opened ones. The Axiom EP400 was designed and built to give true real deep bass for small enclosed area; bedroom or den. If it is your case it would be a great choice; if not opt for the EP500 which is not much more expensive but can pressurize much larger space.


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Re: Any reason i should use a sub with the M80's?
Jc #345270 04/17/11 12:14 AM
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Again, if you are just listening in stereo I think you will find the m80's to be sufficient. Try them, and if you need more you can add a sub later.


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Re: Any reason i should use a sub with the M80's?
terzaghi #345274 04/17/11 01:37 AM
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Given he is not looking for a sub for movies just music and definatly not looking for floor shaking bottom end , just enough to hear a little more depth in the music.
Given that it is 500 watts and goes down to 17 hz, well below what is needed and 106db another well more volumn than needed. Two of these suckers probably do fine, just enough to bring up the bottom end a tad more. Two 8's are better than a 10" and Ep500 and up would be over kill,

What about the Martin Logan Descent 1? I heard that a couple months ago and that kicked some A$$


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Re: Any reason i should use a sub with the M80's?
axiom_man #345284 04/17/11 12:36 PM
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Thanks for the info guys. I'm not a big fan of subs for stereo setups, altho some speakers just need them (mostly electrostatic types) I'll just play with the placement, since there are back firing ports. I'll start off with them 6" off the back wall (which is probably too close) then walk them out.

I didn't "think" they should need a sub, but thought i should ask. I'm not familiar with speakers that have back firing ports, which i "assume' will effect the bass, depending on placement.

Re: Any reason i should use a sub with the M80's?
bobt #345290 04/17/11 01:56 PM
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Axiom says the minimum distance from the back ports to the wall for the M80s is about 2 inches; you could start there.

Re: Any reason i should use a sub with the M80's?
J. B. #345293 04/17/11 02:54 PM
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mixed this up with another thread as I have no idea how big your rooms is...

I have my m80's 12" from the wall and they provide excellent bass for stereo listening. I'd say give it a try and then add a sub if you feel it is needed, but I' don't think you will.


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The room is about 14X28, it's a basement area, with a dropped ceiling about 7.5' high. The wall the stereo sits on is only 10' long as the door to the room is there. The old Polks are sitting at 12" off the back wall. Probably were the M80's will end up, but i figured might as well try stuff out.

Re: Any reason i should use a sub with the M80's?
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Just a note; when measuring speakers for placement you should be measuring from the back wall to the front (baffle) of the speaker. On side wall measurements you go from the wall to the center of the driver.


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Re: Any reason i should use a sub with the M80's?
Wid #345306 04/17/11 05:12 PM
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OK...I've never heard of anybody measuring like that. Don't know of any speaker company telling you to measure like that...News to me. A 12" measurment off the back wall, means, 1 foot from the back of the cab..at least to me...

Re: Any reason i should use a sub with the M80's?
bobt #345309 04/17/11 06:04 PM
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same here bob.


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