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#345186 - 04/15/11 06:43 PM Any reason i should use a sub with the M80's?
bobt Offline
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For strict 2 channel stereo?
OK, yes i'm sitting here waiting for my guitar money, till next week, and have nothing better to due. But i was just playing music on the broke Polks...I have to be REAL careful about the volume..have to jump up to turn it down, if the bad driver pop's. That pretty much drives me nuts!!!

But ..I "assume" 2 6.5 drivers with the right ports will give me the bass i'm looking for. Even the broke Polks work to a point...and do give out bass..but it's driving me insane...LOL

I understand if there is no real answer, until i get the speakers in the house. But the broken Polks are driving me nuts...so i thought i would ask .

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#345188 - 04/15/11 06:59 PM Re: Any reason i should use a sub with the M80's? [Re: bobt]
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Unless you listen to lots of music with deep bass (read pipe organ, kettle drum) then the M80s rock the bass department. I listen to Goa Trance music when working out (ok sometimes Viking Metal) which has a very rapid bass and midbass beat and the M80s do it just right. IMO you won’t miss a subwoofer except for the deep Low Frequency Effects (LFE) of movies. I’ve even, a couple of times, forgotten I turned my subwoofer off until I put in a movie I knew had certain LFE and noticed it wasn’t as pronounced.
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#345205 - 04/15/11 08:56 PM Re: Any reason i should use a sub with the M80's? [Re: grunt]
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I watch a lot of movies with nothing but my m60s pumping out the bass and it is quite satisfying. The sub only gets turned on when the wife isn't home, or she gives me the ok. For music in 2 channel, I think you will find the bass is great even for hip hop. And that's with m60s. M80s have even more bass.

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#345218 - 04/16/11 08:48 AM Re: Any reason i should use a sub with the M80's? [Re: autoboy]
GTZ Offline
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When I listen to 2 channel my M80's deliver excellent bass.
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#345222 - 04/16/11 09:29 AM Re: Any reason i should use a sub with the M80's? [Re: GTZ]
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I agree with all comments.
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#345234 - 04/16/11 11:53 AM Re: Any reason i should use a sub with the M80's? [Re: bobt]
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Hi,
You will be amazed by the bass quality and output of the M80. Under a limitless power or close; they can be shockingly good. I clearly remember when I first powered them with the Axiom A1400-8; I was sure that I had my sunbwoofer on. I had to walk to it to be sure that it was off. And, at that time, the A1400-8 was replacing a powerful refernce Mark Levinson No 23.5 (400 watts per channel at 4 Ohms); never under-estimate the effect of abundant clean power.
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#345237 - 04/16/11 12:51 PM Re: Any reason i should use a sub with the M80's? [Re: Jc]
terzaghi Offline
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For stereo the m80's work fine without a sub. I wouldn't go without a sub for a surround system though.
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#345243 - 04/16/11 01:43 PM Re: Any reason i should use a sub with the M80's? [Re: terzaghi]
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I second, for movies, a powerful subwoofer reproducing the LFE channel information is absolutely required. My remarks were for two channel music reproduction.
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#345248 - 04/16/11 04:46 PM Re: Any reason i should use a sub with the M80's? [Re: bobt]
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Yeh ,I find a little bit ( touch ) more Umph that's why I was questioning if a EP400 would be good.
Just enough for music to free up some amp power and with the 8" drivers I thought would compliment theM80's well for music.
Specially when listening to Norah ( hot ) Joans type music
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#345253 - 04/16/11 05:18 PM Re: Any reason i should use a sub with the M80's? [Re: axiom_man]
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I would definitely vote against an ep400 in a room of your size.
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