Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Stereo any one using Tubes with Axiom M80's??

Now look what you did Lampy! you got Bob all upset.

So what I'm taking away from this conversation, thus far, is that Bob is old.

Just curious why you own separates now since you have been touting that a receiver is all you need. You weren't against separates when you had the Oddyessy monoblocks, then sold them. Then posted in the amplification threads how a receiver is all one needs to drive axioms (I power my Axioms in a 5000 cubic foot room or whatever with my Denon). You now own separates AGAIN...lol...are you going to be more lenient on your stance on external amplification?...lol

Don't get me wrong, you don't have to justify your purchases to me. I just think this is funny. This is a prime example of cognitive dissonance.

I've been on this forum for a couple of months now, and what i've seen is someone asks for some info or opinion on a particular subject; then others say what they think or know (knowledge sharing) and, in the end, the OP makes his own mind and takes a decision after considering all that has been written.
When problems arise, it usually is because some people are dogmatic when they should be giving advice only.

"Dogmas are prison bars" that one constructs around his own self; one of the components of conservatism.
Not a very diplomatic way of saying it, but very easy to understand by all...

I've yet to read anyone here asking for info. on dogmas regarding a specific piece of equipment and acting blindly according to them; but they are sometimes given as irrefutable truth for what i consider no valid reasons; and they are of no appreciable help.
Dogmas belong to religion, not audio.

any piece of gear should be considered according to its particular advantages and disadvantages (fitness) in view of it's intended purpose; nothing more, nothing less.

That's what I'm thinking as I'm presenting what I know. Get the facts out there (and if I'm mistaken about something, welcome a correction), and let the person who's asking the question make up their mind.

Unfortunately this thread was derailed so early on that a conversation with the OP wasn't even possible. Ironically, the ones doing the derailing were the ones claiming that this forum is going down hill.

The MPS-1 was a piece of crap which is why it went back to Emotiva. The Odyssey's were awesome, but the German design runs very very hot and my AV cabinet I had no options for stacking. Each of them required ample space around them for ventilation. They were also mono's and I wanted full seperate amplification of 7 channels, which is why I have the Outlaw now. A nice retired gentleman in Phoenix now enjoys them.

At moderate listening levels most will find no difference, which is why a receiver is all most will need. If you follow Alan's articles about achieving a real experience of chamber grand piano and/or concert levels a 100watt receiver won't cut it during 20dB swings.

The Outlaw (ATI) amp will probably be the last amp I will ever need. The impace in movies is noticable compared to the Denon alone. Plan to get the new 978 if/when it gets released because of all the Japan problems.

Sleep well.

I like those Outlaw amps. Maybe not as much as Rotel but they're nice

Hang around! We need tube lovers like you to help balance things out around here. To the OP, look at Rogue Cronus as well.

It's more fun to talk about audio than it is to talk about how we talk about audio.

I have had only receivers and integrated amps. I hope to have some tube devices and separates some day.

I get great joy from this hobby.

I have made MANY very meaningful friendships here. I have learned SO much.

If we keep our discussions POSITIVE and keep them about the topics and not the people, we'll have more fun.

Fun, Dammit.

Tube amps are great. If your dealing with a 2 channels stereo set up. HT setups on the other hand...I really have no use for. Having Harry Potter, or Starwars blow my ears off..could care less. Not worth the money for tubes.

Playing Beethoven, or Bach, or whatever. On a Good tube amp, with a good pre, and Vinyl....now thats what music is about.