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pics ? pics?
please post some nice pics, I want these in HGC also
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My experience with both the M22s and M2s paired with a sub compared to the M80s +sub are the same as Jakewash’s. I have found the biggest advantage in having the M80+sub combo is that in my present room I have a +10dB peak just above 20Hz and a -10dB null around 50Hz. So if I turn the sub up to feel the lower midbass punch around 50Hz the deep bass rumble at 20Hz is overpowering. Letting the M80s handle their own bass down to 40-50Hz lets me have more punch w/o to much rumble. Doesn’t help the LFE channel but it does improve the midbass on many sound tracts and even more music. Using “double bass” or “LFE + Mains” can even help smooth things out more by having multiple bass sources over part of the frequency range. Remember what I am talking about here is fairly room specific so it might not benefit everyone. Note that suggesting a lower crossover then 80Hz for any speaker or ever using something like “LFE + Mains” is considered a heresy here, so if you try it someone will come burn you at the stake.  I guess that makes me an unrepentant heretic...get the torches and pitchforks! I have a much less objective reason. I think it sounds better with the sub in the mix for certain music, especially Dubstep or anything with crazy bass.
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Bah, that's patently a falsehood. That it's heresy, that is. Maybe certain personnes are advocates of 80Hz, but by no means all of us. Me, I like my multiple crossovers.
Last edited by Ken.C; 04/27/11 11:37 PM.
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I would suggest that some of the subtle differences heard between the M22s(w sub) vs the M80s(w/wo sub) are that, despite using the exact same 5 1/4" mid woofers, the M80s are sealed within the cabinet(via tube) where the M22s 5 1/4" drivers utilize cabinet porting.
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I've done the m22+subs comparison vs M80s and concluded the real variable is the room not the gear which determines which setup is going to perform better. In one room it was he M80s at 60hz while in my HT surprisingly I had a smoother respnse dialling in the m22s at 90hz.
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Me, I like my multiple crossovers. Well that’s just because your status icon shows you are “confused.”
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I thought it showed I was asleep.
Hunh. Look at that.
Last edited by Ken.C; 04/29/11 03:09 AM.
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