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Re: The M80's just got here....the AMP will not work
bobt #346817 05/01/11 08:17 PM
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This is comical......

He refuses to check the speakers and it just keeps going on and on and on

(Well I admit I got bored after a few pages and didn't read every response)

There must be an end to "the help"

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Re: The M80's just got here....the AMP will not work
Glitchy #346818 05/01/11 08:23 PM
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Re: The M80's just got here....the AMP will not work
ClubNeon #346819 05/01/11 08:36 PM
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yeh, continuity, there should be as they are working but, the ohm's reading should not be infinity should it ?
it there's a short internally, I believe the reading should go to infinity and if they are ok a normal reading around 4 - 8 if I can remember correctly.
That would drive the amp to protect pretty quick.


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axiom_man #346820 05/01/11 08:45 PM
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If it's an open, then an Ohm meter will read infinite, or overload, or out or range. If it is a short, it'll read 0 Ohms.

If there is a defective component in the speaker that allows more current through at a specific frequency, the Ohm meter will tell you nothing.


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MarkSJohnson #346821 05/01/11 08:54 PM
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Mine ended.

So did mine.


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Re: The M80's just got here....the AMP will not work
Glitchy #346822 05/01/11 09:04 PM
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Really?...I don't see anything funny about it. I've checked the speakers ohm wise. they both read the same. there is no short, testing them that way. I've checked all the wireing. NO problems.

The fact that the amp will power an old set of Polks and Advents, either 1 at a time, or both at the same time...to extreme volume would say the amp works..at least with those speakers which are rated at 8 and 6 ohm.

Now you tell me. What is the point of testing 1 speaker at a time. If the amp dose not like the 4 ohm load...it's going to shut down. So your asking me to do what. Test to see when the amp shuts down? The M80's will play...just don't try to crank them.
If the amp dose not like the load, it's going to shut down...on both speakers, or tested 1 at a time.

Basic Logic would say the amp can not deal with the 4 ohm load. But you keep harping on testing the speakers. Dose that mean there is some known problem that these speakers short out or something?

I don't find anything funny about this at all. It will cost me another $400 to find out if the speakers work or they don't.

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bobt #346823 05/01/11 09:10 PM
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I would recommend sending the M80s back and get the M60s. Your amp will work (8 ohm load) and you will still get a set of outstanding speakers and save money.

What they are saying with testing one at a time is; it could be only one of the speaker shutting down the amp. Therefore the speaker, which ever one, would be defective and be replaced by Axiom. This very well could be.


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Re: The M80's just got here....the AMP will not work
bobt #346824 05/01/11 09:11 PM
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No manufactured product has 100% perfection. Your speakers may have been wired wrong internally. All manufactures count on a certain % of defects/not right.

Do us a favor and check each speaker, not the connection to your rcvr/amp, the speaker connections at terminals, but the speakers themselves. They "MAY HAVE" been wired internally wrong. It happens!

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Re: The M80's just got here....the AMP will not work
bobt #346825 05/01/11 09:12 PM
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You understand that the speaker is only 4 ohm at certain frequencies, and in fact much higher for most of the range?
What we are saying is if one of the speakers are bad, which is unlikely, this way you will know this. If the amp shuts down only driving one speaker, and not the other, you will have your answer, I don't really care what the multimeter is talling you.

Most likely, your amp just can't handle the m80's for whatever reason. Kinda like when my old Emotiva MPS 1 kept shutting down driving my M80's. On paper they say it will, but in reality it wasn't designed to what the paper said. During wide dynamic jumps in dB's they would puss out.


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Re: The M80's just got here....the AMP will not work
SirQuack #346826 05/01/11 09:20 PM
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The reason they are asking you to test each speaker individually is to rule out anything that may be wrong with one of the speaker’s drivers or electronics components that is not detectable by the meter. If one speaker shuts the amp down and the other doesn’t then you’ve narrowed the problem down to the one speaker. If both speakers shut the amp down individually then IMO the amp and M80s just don’t play nice together, though there is a slight chance both the M80s could be bad, but not likely.

Certainly you can buy another amp that you know can handle the M80s and if it also shuts down then you know that one or both (not likely) of the M80s are bad. Testing the speakers individually with your existing amp or borrowing a receiver from someone to do it will just let you know sooner.

My suggestion is that you return the M80s and just buy something else since your initial hesitation and this experience have likely tainted your opinion of them to the point that if you do get them working properly cognitive dissonance will stop you from wanting to keep them.


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