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Re: The Vatican Dumpster
J. B. #348415 05/17/11 04:47 PM
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I don't know about men blindly staring at God for eternity, but I do think that the redeemed will be witnesses to all of creation about the value of God's ways and methods as opposed to Lucifer's (a fallen angel) ways and methods so that there will eventually be a balance of life methods, instead of Lucifer's death methods.

(As far as May goes, I get tired of celebrating in this fashion.)

If you wonder why I still believe in this stuff, consider Roger Morneau, as one example.

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CatBrat #348477 05/18/11 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted By: CatBrat
If you wonder why I still believe in this stuff, consider Roger Morneau, as one example.

It was probably his many years in telephone advertising sales that did it.

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pmbuko #348487 05/18/11 12:03 PM
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I'm sure that was probably it.

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CatBrat #348508 05/18/11 02:48 PM
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I hardly think that someone's occupation can be a deciding factor on whether they're a devout believer in something or an overall good person. I don't know much about this man other than the wikipedia article cited, and I don't necessarily share his beliefs, but just because someone did a job you find distasteful does not mean that their religious beliefs are somehow sullied.


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Ken.C #348513 05/18/11 04:26 PM
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I was being sarcastic.

Actually, this person, Roger and myself share the same religion. I'm a somewhat liberal follower of it though. I do enjoy watching his videos on "A Trip into the Supernatural". Sometime in the past I've read all of his books. I used to own the VCR set of one of his videos. All in all, I think he is being honest and truth-full in what he says, however strange it may be to some.

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Ken.C #348516 05/18/11 04:43 PM
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Jeebus, Ken. You had to know I was making a joke. Name one of my posts in the last 100 where that wasn't the case. I dare you. :P

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CatBrat #348518 05/18/11 04:54 PM
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Cat,

I'm honestly happy for you that you've found someone who helps you make sense of the world. Not everybody's requirements are the same when it comes to feeding their curiosity about Life's Big Questions™. smile

As I've recently come to believe -- through the help of a colleague here at work (link to his blog) -- there are no irrational choices. How a person makes a choice and how they behave from one moment to the next is determined by all their life experiences up the that point.

Here's a pertinent quote:
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Every single human mind has a uniquely evolved model of their world because they have necessarily taken a unique path to this point in time. Any action that occurs is the consequence of a given situation carefully examined in comparison to each of our uniquely evolved models (state of the brain).


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pmbuko #348525 05/18/11 05:21 PM
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Sorry, Peter. I thought it was a bit out of character. Didn't realize either of you were joking.


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Ken.C #348528 05/18/11 05:27 PM
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pmbuko, good response. I like that and thoroughly believe what you've said here/quoted.

Also, my older brother (actually, only brother), suffers from schizophrenia and it's interesting, yet painful, to see his obsessive/compulsiveness actions. He is the one in control, and no doctors, religeous officials, nor officials of any kind, is going to convince him that his belief system is a little squirrelier than most people. Even though he's in a nursing home and been medicated for his condition for years, he still holds onto his earlier beliefs. 1) His stomach is dead and he needs it removed and/or replaced. 2) His religious beliefs are to the extreme where just being around him long enough would turn anyone away from religion. 3) He's always right and everyone else is always wrong.

I have to occasionally take a self-inventory of my belief system just to make sure I'm not following in his footsteps.

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CatBrat #348531 05/18/11 05:54 PM
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I've read some, and intend to read more, of this article of your colleague that you have pointed out. I couldn't disagree more with the religious principles he brings out. What he is pointing out is the modern spirituality think, or the new Satanism beliefs. There are a lot of similarities with his presentation and Wicca beliefs that is the modern version of witchcraft.

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