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I've been looking at replacing my current receiver from the new Denon line. How are the new ones stacking up against the old workhorse 3308CI that everyone was getting into a couple of years ago? I have a 5.1 setup with VP100, M22s, QS8s, so I don't have extreme power needs by any means.

I'm looking toward the 2311CI, what are people's thoughts?

Alright, it looks like the xx12 line is just about to roll out, any thoughts on those as well?

Just get one that has the features you need. I've had the 890 (same as 2310) driving M80s + VP180 for 1.5 years and had no issue with it.

Does "thefwam" rhyme with Def Jam?

Im new to al this but I have m80s with a avr3311ci luv the receiver so far. Only issue I have is seeming the m80s can handle alot I tried a couple times turn it up to +10db to listen outside and after 5minutes the amp shuts down. +5db or lower seems to be able to handle for ahile.

Just my take over a couple days. Awesome features and so glade I got all the Audyssey technology

you should try to get more ventilation to the avr, maybe with a fan directing air to it.
+10 is very high level and if you'd want to do that on a regular basis, you should use separate amps along with the preamp outputs on the avr if you have them.

also try to make sure that when you increase the volume, you never hear distortion; if you can hear it it means the amp is overdriven and is clipping.

if you buy pro amps, most of them have a clipping indicator (led), and power comes relatively cheap with them.

Dustin, you shouldn't worry only about the amp shutting down, this is actually not the problem. What you should worry about is the amp clipping that can damage your tweeters. I remember when I first got the M80s, I turned the volume up to see how loud they could play and the amp started clipping around +5 or +7 (at least that I could hear). That will be source material dependent but whenever you turn the level above 0, you should really pay attention at the amp clipping. As JB said, if you do this on a regular basis, you should look at external amplification.

I can't turn my Pioneer Elite up high enough to hear clipping because it's just too damn loud if I did. Sometimes I turn it up while I'm on my treadmill so I can hear it good in another room, but going into the room where it's playing is painful. This is usually around +12 to +10 on the dial.

This probably means it's time to mount a couple of M3's on the wall in front of my treadmill. (Anti-ChaChing)

so in short dont push these babies till i get a seperate amp to run them. At 0db its more then fine. Just pumped them up and went outside. after like I said 5minutes it shut down. However my untrained ears heard no distortion or anything coming out.

i did also add a fan to the receiver but havent tempted the loudness again. It happened twice i wouldnt want a third. Hope no damage is done.

I seem to recall Alan advising on another post that going past 0dB on the dial is not a good thing - in general he advised to keep to 0 or less to avoid over driving the amp.