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Re: Help a newbie with deciding m60s m80s
casey01 #348963 05/22/11 06:31 PM
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my QSC does have a bit of noise, barely heard from where i sit (about 6ft from the speakers); if i set the amp's gain at -3dB, i don't hear any noise.

to get good control from the preamp's vol., i set the amp gain at -12dB.

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J. B. #348978 05/22/11 10:22 PM
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So id be wasting my money on a 1000w amp for each speaker.

Yet I dont feel a 350w amp for each would not be good enough.

Does this mean I should not be looking for a mono and run say a 500w 2 channel for the pair of m80s.

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Nitsud #348979 05/22/11 10:28 PM
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1000w's is a great thing even though you probably won't need that much for the m80's. If you ever decide to build yourself a subwoofer, you could put that 1000w's to use as well. You can never have too much power but certainly you can have too little.


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BlueJays1 #348980 05/22/11 10:34 PM
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Well i already have a that 15.3 with 1000w amp being built by nathan soooooo that covers that.

Just sitting at the three choices with amps....

mono choices emotiva upa1 or outlaw 2200
or emotiva xpa1

2 channel choice is emotiva xpa2...

Im just not sure what to do whats to much what isnt enough how the difference in sound is gonna be from 2 channel to mono. So ya.

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Nitsud #349345 05/29/11 03:03 AM
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Patiently waitting. I cant make any purchases till the 7th.

Planning 3 x upa-1 (run the m80s and vp180) (but still on the fence)

and also buying the vp180.

finish paying for the 15.3 funkywave.

Hope the sale stays on till then.

I decided that running 350w mono channels was better then running 500w dual channels. Anyone chime in on that. I want to see the most gain out of listening to music. This is because I feel as I sit right now the m80s alone make me smile each time I watch a movie.

Also anyone let me know if cross talk is annoying or really that much of a pain in the ass (2 channel to mono) This is the only reason I am leaning towards mono.

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Nitsud #349346 05/29/11 03:21 AM
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Dustin, on any competently designed receiver or multi-channel separate amplifier crosstalk measures far below audibility and is far better than sufficient for full channel separation. This shouldn't be a significant factor in a purchase decision.


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JohnK #349347 05/29/11 04:29 AM
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So john are u saying a 2 channel amp wih more power for stereo (lf and rf) with a mono (center) would perhaps give me the best of both worlds? Without worry from having a cross talk issue because I will never hear it anyways.

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Nitsud #349349 05/29/11 06:15 AM
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Dustin, I'm saying that crosstalk isn't an issue; but there still doesn't appear to be anything in your posts that establishes a need for the amplifiers that you're considering. It's been pointed out, although you apparently don't want to hear it, since you still talk about hundreds of watts, that your speakers will use about 1 watt for a comfortably loud average level and even brief peaks aren't likely to use more than about 100 watts.

This is what's needed for full enjoyment of music(which certainly doesn't require any more power than movies; amplification doesn't know which is which)and spending more money on unused maximum power capacity can't make it even better.


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JohnK #349350 05/29/11 06:20 AM
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What no one has really set me at easy on is that in stereo I would like to turn these babies up loud enough to hear outside on my deck with no problems. Or bringing the entire sytstem outside to blast in an open range setting.

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Nitsud #349351 05/29/11 06:33 AM
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In my view that isn't enjoying music; it's just making a loud noise. For that use you should have a minimum of 1000 watts per channel.


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