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#350480 - 06/17/11 06:12 PM Good Axiom match for a vintage Marantz 2245?
Tom Marantz Offline
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Hi everyone.

Complete noob here... I am a the proud owner of an old Marantz 2245. This thing was built well before I was born, haha.

I live in the Huntsville, Ontario area, which is only minutes from Axiom's factory location, and I'm interested in purchasing a pair of speakers mainly for music listening.

I am looking at M3s and M22s, but I'm afraid the M3s won't cut it at high levels, even at the 175 watt rating. Am I crazy or should I be looking at the M22s instead, or neither?

I am currently running an 80s-era pair of Mitsubishi SS-7600 speakers. 100 w per channel, 8 ohm impedance, and they sound fantastic, if that helps.

I like a lot of different music, mainly old hardcore and metal, Led Zep, Sonic Youth, the Pixies, classic rock, etc., and I like to turn up the volume...

Any opinions?

Thanks,
- Tom

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#350481 - 06/17/11 06:15 PM Re: Good Axiom match for a vintage Marantz 2245? [Re: Tom Marantz]
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Oooh, pretty. Let's start with the room size. Both of them should be quite adequate in a smaller room.
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#350482 - 06/17/11 06:18 PM Re: Good Axiom match for a vintage Marantz 2245? [Re: Ken.C]
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It's set up in my living room, which itself is about 15x15, but also opens up into the dining room which is about the same...

I suppose you could say that it is roughly 15x30.

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#350483 - 06/17/11 06:20 PM Re: Good Axiom match for a vintage Marantz 2245? [Re: Tom Marantz]
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Well, since you're unlikely to be adding a sub, my first inclination would be the M3s, since they have a bass hump that will help with the perception of bass--they don't actually go lower than the M22s, but they sound like they do.

Actually, my first inclination would be towers, but that's just me.
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#350484 - 06/17/11 06:22 PM Re: Good Axiom match for a vintage Marantz 2245? [Re: Ken.C]
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When you say towers, is that because the old Marantz 22s are so sexy, and it would be a shame not to? wink Or because the M3s or M22s won't cut it?

I suppose that is difficult to say.

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#350485 - 06/17/11 06:31 PM Re: Good Axiom match for a vintage Marantz 2245? [Re: Tom Marantz]
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I like towers. And I like bass. The M3s and M22s are very, very good bookshelf speakers, but I really prefer at least the M22s with a sub. M50s, M60s, M80s, you don't necessarily need one.

M3s I would listen to without a sub, but when I've listened to M22s back to back with and without a sub, I really miss one.

Bear in mind that my primary speakers are M80s, before that M50s. I also use a sub all the time. I have M22s, but they're on extended loan to my parents...
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#350486 - 06/17/11 06:43 PM Re: Good Axiom match for a vintage Marantz 2245? [Re: Ken.C]
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Good to know.
Thanks for the advice.
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#350489 - 06/17/11 07:28 PM Re: Good Axiom match for a vintage Marantz 2245? [Re: Tom Marantz]
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Do you have the wooden cover for your 2245? I never had one of those for my 2220 or 2252.

I'm curious where you're getting this 175 watt rating... I thought Marantz 2200 series meant that the last 2 digits were the wattage.
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#350495 - 06/17/11 07:45 PM Re: Good Axiom match for a vintage Marantz 2245? [Re: Ken.C]
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Actually I do have the WC 22 cover, but I removed it because I couldn't slip this behemoth into my entertainment unit with it on, and I am about to take the receiver in and get it serviced in Toronto (has two lamps out, needs bias adjusted, etc). Not sure I will put the wood cabinet back on...

About the 175 watts, I was referring to the M3 speakers, not the receiver. That is the max rating of the M3s, right??
The receiver cranks out 45 per channel (1970s mind you)...

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#350498 - 06/17/11 07:50 PM Re: Good Axiom match for a vintage Marantz 2245? [Re: Tom Marantz]
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Ah, the wattage rating on speakers is largely irrelevant. What you're looking for for loudness comparisons is sensitivity aka SPL. 96dB at 1 watt/1 meter is pretty darn sensitive.

Is 1970s WPC like or unlike 1970s HP? wink
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