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Re: Axiom ever consider making an outdoor subwoofer?
cb919 #350703 06/21/11 10:43 PM
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So can someone explain to me that if i only sit around 6 to 8 feet away from the sub and speakers why somehow the sub wont work outside? I don't get it?


i understand room gain and all, but if my memory serves me correctly walls don't add that much gain to a sub that you can't hear it. If other companies have made outdoor subs with lower specs than what axiom makes for in home subs I do not get this argument that it cannot be done or for that matter heard outside.


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Re: Axiom ever consider making an outdoor subwoofer?
jhunt17 #350718 06/22/11 02:37 AM
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Sure, JH; without the room gain(below the frequency of the longest room dimension)to increase the bottom end extension the lower limits of the sub will be essentially the same as when measured anechoically. At the 6-8' distance the sound level will fall off more quickly than it would inside, since there'd only be ground reflections to add to it, but it wouldn't disappear, and if you can solve the other problems mentioned with a sub outside, the effect should be satisfactory.


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Re: Axiom ever consider making an outdoor subwoofer?
cb919 #350742 06/22/11 11:35 AM
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I have seen the above mentioned tower. Sadly, they wouldn't let me climb it.


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Re: Axiom ever consider making an outdoor subwoofer?
Murph #350757 06/22/11 01:46 PM
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Re: Axiom ever consider making an outdoor subwoofer?
pmbuko #350763 06/22/11 03:27 PM
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I understand all of the difficulty getting the extreme low bass outside, but wouldn't there be a definite advantage to actually having a sub outside as opposed to not having one at all?


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Re: Axiom ever consider making an outdoor subwoofer?
jhunt17 #350768 06/22/11 03:56 PM
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When accounting for budget constraints of the average person. The answer to your question Jhunt is No...


To keep a open localized area pressurized at a low frequency takes tremendous amounts of energy, which consequently is very expensive. To make an enclosure that would be weather resistant would require quite a bit of plastic engineering. Like the Algonquin's the cabinet would need to be made of injection molded plastic and re-enforced with internal bracing to stand up to the internal pressure.


i would say the biggest reason why you are having a hard time, is because of the limited demand for the product you are looking at. If the market isn't large enough it just isn't worth it for manufactures to enter that market.. That is where we are at with the out door HT market..

The largest outdoor speaker market is the pro/concert market, and that is why those are the only quality products available.

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dakkon #350774 06/22/11 05:05 PM
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On the other hand, if you are just going to sit beside the outdoor subwoofer, I would think that most of those available for outdoor use would work for you.

Re: Axiom ever consider making an outdoor subwoofer?
CatBrat #350801 06/22/11 10:09 PM
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Can this be done? Connect a bass guitar amp to the lfe output of a receiver and make it work like a sub woofer?

Re: Axiom ever consider making an outdoor subwoofer?
CatBrat #350813 06/23/11 12:17 AM
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Sure, why not?

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pmbuko #350827 06/23/11 02:30 AM
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I would bet the elemental Designs A7-900 would work quite well outdoors, just build a small removable shelter to go around it to protect it from the elements. Ok, so a small shelter for this huge sub doesn't really equate.


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