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Used M60Ti, should I buy?
#350954 06/24/11 12:57 PM
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Hi Guys,

Back for my semi-annual visit. This time, I have found a guy selling his 2001 M60Ti's for $500. I got him to $400, but I am not sure if it's such a hot deal as the new V3's are only $988.

Appreciate your thoughts as always!


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Re: Used M60Ti, should I buy?
davemire #350956 06/24/11 01:57 PM
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I'd only buy the older ones, if couldn't afford the newer ones. The newer would have more up-to-date tech for better sound.

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davemire #350958 06/24/11 02:28 PM
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Hi Davemire,

Welcome back to the forums.
I'd encourage you to go for the new M60 v3s rather than the old ti's. They are significantly smoother through the midrange on female and male vocals, brass instruments, sax, etc.

And the new tweeter in the v3's produces a wider, more spacious and consistent soundstage.

In the double-blind listening tests for the M60 v3, I wrote "This is a wonderful speaker!". I never used praise like that for the old M60ti's; I had a number of criticisms which the new v3's eliminated.

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alan #350959 06/24/11 02:45 PM
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Thanks for the reply. That was my biggest reservation that the whole lineup had seen a pretty significant overhaul. Back to saving my pennies then. wink


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davemire #350963 06/24/11 03:54 PM
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or Dave if you can find some later V2's, not sure there are anymore being sold on the Auction site, that might be an option, or V3's from the auction to save a little money.


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SirQuack #350964 06/24/11 04:16 PM
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Good idea as well. Will keep that in mind.


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alan #350984 06/24/11 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: alan
In the double-blind listening tests for the M60 v3, I wrote "This is a wonderful speaker!". I never used praise like that for the old M60ti's; I had a number of criticisms which the new v3's eliminated.

Regards,
Alan


I searched for your review of the M60ti's as I was interested in hearing your criticisms, and came across this post-

Originally Posted By: alan
Hi ereed,

I liked the M60 a lot from the time I first auditioned the entire Axiom line in 2002 and did not suggest any changes to the M60.

I believe the M60's tonal balance has remained essentially unchanged, however, I once asked Ian last year if he'd made any changes to the M60 and he replied, "Oh, yeah," but didn't elaborate. I'll question him more closely and report back.

No audible changes have been made to the M22s. We did try a different configuration of the tweeter and midrange drivers last fall for a listening test, but the current array won the contest and stayed the same.

Regards,


The response was to this query-

Originally Posted By: ereed
So only the M80s changed slightly....what about the M60ti from mid 2003 and the new V2? Did that change as well?


Here's the link to the thread.

Am I missing something? I just don't see the criticisms.


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Ya_basta #350987 06/24/11 10:56 PM
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Maybe the changes were from v2 to v3?

Maybe Alan's criticisms were not derived double-blind?

I guess it wouldn't really be in Alan's interests (or Axiom's) to criticize their speakers publicly.

OTOH, Axiom doesn't make any money from a private sale of Ti's, either.


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tomtuttle #350988 06/24/11 11:30 PM
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Just doesn't seem right to me, that's all.

Mixing reviews, with a bias, has never sat well with me. Call me crazy.

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Ya_basta #350991 06/25/11 12:30 AM
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For $400 I'd suggest you buy them. I own the M80ti and they sound great imo, I can only imagine the older M60s sound just as good.


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