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#353382 - 08/20/11 08:14 PM New Receiver...Onkyo 809 or Yamaha A2000 or..?
Wiggins Offline
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In the market for a new avr. I have it narrowed down to a few options right now. In particular I am looking at the Onkyo TX-NR 809 and the Yamaha Aventage A2000. I can get the 809 for around $1200 taxes in and the A2000 for $1300. I have read throughout different forums people picking up the 809 for $699 from Newegg but seeing as I am in Canada(Halifax Nova Scotia) I can not take advantage of that deal and am 5.5 hrs away to the border.

I previously had a Yamaha HTR 6190(same as RXV-1800). I like the idea of the network receiver and would like take advantage of some of features. I like the new look of the Onkyo's and the new Yamaha look is growing on me. I like the new OSD and GUI... the Onkyo wins there I think.

Anyway, just want to see what other people think on this. Not looking for answers like go listen to them to yourself and decide. The Yamaha is local but I have to order in the 809.

I have previously owned both Onkyo and Yamaha and had good results with both. My room is 19Lx11Wx8H. My speakers are Monitor Audio RX6, RXC and RXFX's with a Bic Acoustech PL-200 for a sub. I watch a fair amount of movies and listen to music as well(70/30 we'll say).

I have also seen a used UMC-1 for $400 shipped and can get a UPA-7 for around $700(plus shipping maybe).

Thanks in advance,

Chris
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#353383 - 08/20/11 08:33 PM Re: New Receiver...Onkyo 809 or Yamaha A2000 or..? [Re: Wiggins]
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Funny you should ask that question. About a month ago I was comparing these same two models and since I have always had somewhat of a soft spot for the Yamaha sound fields, especially for movies along with the ability to incorporate an additional amp(which I already have) to add the presence channels for a 9.2 configuration, even though it was a little more, I chose the Yamaha over the Onkyo and haven't regretted it a bit. The video processor in it got a very high rating in reviews and you can make independent picture adjustments for up to 6 individual A/V inputs.

If price is the main issue, I would check the electronicsforless.ca website, an authorized re-seller in the Toronto area that has the 809 on sale for $999.00 this weekend only, check it out. For me personally, and given Onkyo's sketchy reputation for aftermarket support, I would still choose the Yamaha.

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#353384 - 08/20/11 08:39 PM Re: New Receiver...Onkyo 809 or Yamaha A2000 or..? [Re: casey01]
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Any time I try to get on the electronicsforless.ca website it takes me to Amazon and I can never seem to navigate my way to find any receivers.... what am I missing? lol. On the canadapost comparison shopper I find the 809 for $999 like you said, I click on it and still takes me to Amazon.ca

Decent price on the 809. I can get the Yamaha locally $1299 taxes in.

Thanks for the plus 1 on the a2000.


Edited by Wiggins (08/20/11 08:41 PM)
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#353385 - 08/20/11 08:58 PM Re: New Receiver...Onkyo 809 or Yamaha A2000 or..? [Re: Wiggins]
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Originally Posted By: Wiggins
Any time I try to get on the electronicsforless.ca website it takes me to Amazon and I can never seem to navigate my way to find any receivers.... what am I missing? lol. On the canadapost comparison shopper I find the 809 for $999 like you said, I click on it and still takes me to Amazon.ca

Decent price on the 809. I can get the Yamaha locally $1299 taxes in.

Thanks for the plus 1 on the a2000.


I don't know why even Amazon.ca would come up since they don't even sell A/V equipment in Canada! It is probably eventually going to re-direct you to Amazon.com in the US which is useless since Onkyo won't allow US resellers to sell in to Canada anyway. Google their webpage(elecforless) first and it should show their website with multiple product listings then pick the one you want and the AVR page will come up directly/OR try again and make sure that if you want to bring up their page electronicsforless.ca is all one word with no spaces.

Even though I have it bookmarked, when I try it at the top of the page it comes up no problem.

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#353386 - 08/20/11 09:09 PM Re: New Receiver...Onkyo 809 or Yamaha A2000 or..? [Re: casey01]
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Yeah it's very weird, I am trying to work around it but it takes me to Amazon.com, not .ca sorry. I have found the product listing on google and it still redirects me and has for the last week. I just assumed it was a fake website or something since I couldn't find it lol. Even on my iPhone it does it. Wouldn`t have anything to do with me in Nova Scotia would it? This is frustrating.
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#353387 - 08/20/11 09:28 PM Re: New Receiver...Onkyo 809 or Yamaha A2000 or..? [Re: Wiggins]
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Hmm, very strange, however, we will now resort to Plan C. Try Googling, "Amplifiers & Receivers Canada" and see if their website comes up now(this should bring you directly to the AVR title page then click on it) and if it STILL doesn't happen and the 809 is more attractive to you over the Yamaha at that price, you can phone them directly at 1-866-696-3591(that number should be accessible from anywhere in the country). Obviously, there will be additional shipping charges, however, theirs is quite reasonable.

Monday is the last day for the sale after which on Tuesday it will go back up to $1299. Good Luck!

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#353388 - 08/20/11 09:31 PM Re: New Receiver...Onkyo 809 or Yamaha A2000 or..? [Re: Wiggins]
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Chris, in their basic function as amplifiers those two can be viewed as essentially equal, so go with the features you want at the best price you can get. My view is that the Audyssey MultEQ XT auto calibration and room EQ gives it a definite edge, along with the rest of its feature set.

Canadian deals on audio equipment are even more of a mystery to me, of course, but that price on the 809 that you mention sounds like a good deal.
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#353389 - 08/20/11 09:42 PM Re: New Receiver...Onkyo 809 or Yamaha A2000 or..? [Re: casey01]
Wiggins Offline
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Registered: 11/18/07
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Loc: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Yeah I've tried multiple ways to do this and no luck.

I've got here:

http://www.canadapost.ca/shopper/search?keywords=onkyo

3/4 way down the page it shows the Onkyo 809 for $999, I click on it and Amazon comes up.

Anyway back to the task at hand, what would you choose and why>

One thing I do not like about the Onkyo is power usage for the audio return channel and networking when in standby. Yamaha is quoted as being lower. Also scaling to 4k is a non-issue for me and I think it shouldn't even be marketed at this time to the masses since it won't even be used.

Also thanks John for your input. wink


Edited by Wiggins (08/20/11 09:54 PM)
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#353390 - 08/20/11 09:56 PM Re: New Receiver...Onkyo 809 or Yamaha A2000 or..? [Re: Wiggins]
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Chris, when I click on that Canada Post site, and then click on the Electronics for Less Ca. deal on the 809 for $999 ending Monday, it comes right up.
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#353391 - 08/20/11 09:57 PM Re: New Receiver...Onkyo 809 or Yamaha A2000 or..? [Re: Wiggins]
casey01 Offline
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Registered: 07/03/08
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Loc: Toronto
Originally Posted By: Wiggins
Yeah I've tried multiple ways to do this and no luck.

I've got here:

http://www.canadapost.ca/shopper/search?keywords=onkyo

3/4 way down the page it shows the Onkyo 809 for $999, I click on it and Amazon comes up.

Anyway back to the task at hand, what would you choose and why>

One thing I do not like about the Onkyo is power usage for the audio return channel and networking when in standby. Yamaha is quoted as being lower.

Also thanks John for your input. wink



That is even more strange, when I click on the picture you did the Canada Post page comes up but within a few seconds it directs me right to the E4Less AVR page NOT Amazon. Must have something to do with your search engine, however, you have the tel: nbr. so you can call them directly if you wish.

If you want another option, there is another authorized Onkyo reseller in the GTA called "higher Definition"(hd.ca), located in Oakville just west of Toronto. They are pretty competitive, however, you have to call them directly for a price.

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