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#355461 - 09/24/11 10:12 AM Axiom's new "SECRET WEAPON!?!"...what is it?
solarrdadd Offline
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this is a quote from the September newsletter:

The Secret Weapon: What *Is* This Thing?

This is the one that has the lab the most excited - it's been years in the making! Nobody says it better than the source, so I'll quote Ian directly on the most exciting innovation:

"There is also something very new and very cool we have been working on for years that will be ready by the end of this year. It sits between your pre-amp and your main amp and is designed to work with the M80 v3 and the VP180 v3. Soon after it will be available for the M60 v3, M22 v3, VP150 v3, and the new VP160 v3. This is the major next leap forward in sound quality we have been working on for years. They don’t come along all that often so we are very excited about it. Expect a lot more information on this one at the beginning of October.
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anyone have any idea, guesses or clues as to what this might be? of course i'll get one since i have the M80v3's & the VP180v3 as my front soundstage. I can't wait until October this year to find out what this is. I must have it as they target those 3 speakers, their flagships first. I just hope it has XLR connectors for inputs/outputs cause that's what i use for inter connects between my Onkyo 5507 & my Emotiva XPA-5!

speak up fellow Axiomites, WHAT IS IT?!? crazy
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#355463 - 09/24/11 10:36 AM Re: Axiom's new "SECRET WEAPON!?!"...what is it? [Re: solarrdadd]
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#355464 - 09/24/11 01:42 PM Re: Axiom's new "SECRET WEAPON!?!"...what is it? [Re: fredk]
casey01 Offline
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Hmm, very curious as to why the guys, at least in the initial stages, have limited "whatever it is" to only operate with the three front speakers of a specific model? Off the top, one would think it might be some sort of sound equalization system, however, we all know Ian isn't one who is particularly thrilled with Room Eq's. so it should be interesting since, realistically, I don't have a clue.

One might also take note that the announcement states it is designed to work between the pre-amp and power amp so if you are strictly using an AVR to run your system, I gather you can't use it.

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#355465 - 09/24/11 02:15 PM Re: Axiom's new "SECRET WEAPON!?!"...what is it? [Re: casey01]
CV Offline
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Room EQ is one thing, but perhaps it's simply further flattening what would be the anechoic measurement? Of course, it's hard to call this the next major leap forward in sound quality when the room is still going to diddle with it. I can't wait to hear more about it.

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#355466 - 09/24/11 02:18 PM Re: Axiom's new "SECRET WEAPON!?!"...what is it? [Re: CV]
chesseroo Offline
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I would guess they've taken the subwoofer technology and applied it to their speakers. This is only something you can do in the preamp to amp stage of which that section exists inside a sub, but not inside passive speakers.
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#355469 - 09/24/11 04:19 PM Re: Axiom's new "SECRET WEAPON!?!"...what is it? [Re: chesseroo]
CV Offline
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I'm wondering how much more effective it would be if it was amp, crossover, and DSP in one. I'm sure that's quite a bit more investment and not as easy to plug into everyone's existing setups.

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#355490 - 09/25/11 02:37 AM Re: Axiom's new "SECRET WEAPON!?!"...what is it? [Re: CV]
jmone Offline
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I shuddered when I read the newsletter as the first thing that came to mind was that Axiom is about to launch it’s first ever “helical reverse bonded 99.999999 pure rare earth magnetic flux stabiliser interconnect that dramatically increase the depth, clarity, and presence of those 128kbps MP3 like nothing you have ever heard before”. Given Axioms track record, I'm sure it is a "real" product but the wording.....;)

Anyway it seems that "next leap forwards" are pretty common as THK have already announced one this year - http://www.thx.com/test-bench-blog/the-next-leap-forward-in-audio/

For comparison of other significant events, inventions, products and their purveyors,from cylinder to DVD the Audio Engineering Society offers the following (though as it seems to end in 1999 I'm not sure the new Axiom Secret Weapon will be accorded it's due place) http://www.aes.org/aeshc/docs/audio.history.timeline.html

Don't get me wrong - I'm a big Axiom fan as they produce a great range of honest products at a good price. I'd hate to see this reputation eroded by marketing fluff, October is not far away and I'm always happy to eat humble pie (yummm pie...)


Edited by jmone (09/25/11 03:09 AM)
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#355491 - 09/25/11 02:57 AM Re: Axiom's new "SECRET WEAPON!?!"...what is it? [Re: jmone]
jmone Offline
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My "bet" is that it is going to be a DSP/Paramatic EQ type "box" with profiles to suit each of the Speaker Models.


Edited by jmone (09/25/11 02:58 AM)
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#355498 - 09/25/11 09:29 AM Re: Axiom's new "SECRET WEAPON!?!"...what is it? [Re: jmone]
BlueJays1 Offline
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Ian mentioned it has to do with optimizing the listening window through some sort of "smart" device. The listening listening window is the average response taken which range from on-axis to up to 15 or 30 degrees off-axis horizontal (left/right) and vertical (up/down).


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#355584 - 09/27/11 12:37 AM Re: Axiom's new "SECRET WEAPON!?!"...what is it? [Re: BlueJays1]
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An "active" speaker stand that wobbles (wobulates ?) the speaker up/down/left/right in time with the music for smoother response ?

The DSP monitors speaker+stand resonances so your speakers don't fall over on loud passages wink


Edited by bridgman (09/27/11 12:40 AM)
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