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Hey Everyone - need some advise for home theater - particularly the front speakers.

This will be a dedicated theater with acoustical treatments. I do have some limitations though.

1) limited space behind the false wall. 15" would be extremely tight and am thinking speakers no deeper than 14" for LCR. (Subs not a problem - they will be elsewhere in the room).
2) Need in walls for the surrounds (do to slope ceilings and room width)

Total room volume is approximately 2400 cuft and 7.2 system with bass shakers.

My system thoughts:
M50 floor standing for LR (the only ones that will fit depth issue)
VP150 center
4X M3 in walls for surround
2X EP350 Subs

Looking for overall thoughts on how this would work with the room. Is anything undersized/oversized in this configuration? Any advice really.

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I think that you would see a big boost in front stage performance if you could get a set of M60 fronts instead of the M50s. Maybe look at the "in-cabinet" model since the port is in the front instead of the back meaning that they wouldn't take up as much space as the regular model, but even then you are still .31" too deep. A quandary for sure.

As for surrounds, if you are looking at a greater percentage of movies vs music listening, you will be blown away with the QS series surrounds. They are so good that you will find people that own front speakers from other manufacturers and come to Axiom for their surround speakers.

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We haven't had anyone try out the M50v3s yet, have we? I know a lot of the forum feeling may be based on my M50v1s vs. my M80v2s, so big ol' grain of salt there.


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Ken.C #357111 10/20/11 03:32 PM
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I plan on purchasing M50v3 to replace my M22's on stands, maybe sometime next year. The M22's on stands will then be moved up on the wall and replace my black on-wall M22's. I'm just going to stick with the standard cherry finish, so everything will one day match again.

My plans for this room is M50v3 with my bookshelf M22v2 mounted above them. VP160 in-cabinet mounted below TV (there is plenty of room behind wall there) and maybe even an on-wall VP150 mounted above the TV. Change from 37" to 47" TV also. Also using EP350.

I think I'd probably get just as good, if not better, sound over a pair of M80's this way. The M50's will take up less space than the M80's would.


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I remember a review by one of our forum regulars (forget who now) that showed a marginal improvement of m60+m22 versus the m80. I don't think anyone has tried the m50+m22 combo you are suggesting so youll be the first.


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Eh, we did non scientific testing with an M72 several years back, but...


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Ken.C #357118 10/20/11 05:38 PM
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But.... what?

M50 + M22 has got to be a major improvement over M22 + M22.

M50 providing most of lower freq down to 80hz, and M22 being good at midrange/treble.

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But we didn't do any critical listening on it. It's been a long time, so I can't really speak to how it sounded.


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I don't really understand the "wall of sound" mentality.

Once you're sufficiently reproducing the required amounts of bass, midrange and treble (i.e., flat frequency response), what does adding more speakers (coming from the same direction) offer except messed up imaging?


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Agreed.


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Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
I don't really understand the "wall of sound" mentality.

Once you're sufficiently reproducing the required amounts of bass, midrange and treble (i.e., flat frequency response), what does adding more speakers (coming from the same direction) offer except messed up imaging?


I've tried it both ways. The imaging isn't messed up, as long as all the speakers on the same channel are vertically aligned. (That would be like saying the imaging of the M80 is messed up because there are 2 of each speaker.)

With a single M22, I can tell the sound is coming from the M22. With 2 vertically aligned M22's, it sounds like the whole wall is exploding with sound. (Good just got better.)

That's another possible option for the person that started this thread. Mount 2 M22's on top of each other for L/R and use a VP160, mounted in the center of the screen for the center channel.

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Originally Posted By: CatBrat
Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
I don't really understand the "wall of sound" mentality.

Once you're sufficiently reproducing the required amounts of bass, midrange and treble (i.e., flat frequency response), what does adding more speakers (coming from the same direction) offer except messed up imaging?


I've tried it both ways. The imaging isn't messed up, as long as all the speakers on the same channel are vertically aligned. (That would be like saying the imaging of the M80 is messed up because there are 2 of each speaker.)

With a single M22, I can tell the sound is coming from the M22. With 2 vertically aligned M22's, it sounds like the whole wall is exploding with sound. (Good just got better.)

That's another possible option for the person that started this thread. Mount 2 M22's on top of each other for L/R and use a VP160, mounted in the center of the screen for the center channel.


I agree with the Cat. Even with the M80s the farther you get away from them in a typical HT room the more they sound like a point source in the vertical plain, M22s and M2s more so. Putting another set of drivers playing the same channel aligned above them greatly enhances the immersion of the front soundstage without degrading the left to right separation mastered into the front channels.


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Originally Posted By: nickbuol
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I think that you would see a big boost in front stage performance if you could get a set of M60 fronts instead of the M50s. Maybe look at the "in-cabinet" model since the port is in the front instead of the back meaning that they wouldn't take up as much space as the regular model, but even then you are still .31" too deep. A quandary for sure.

As for surrounds, if you are looking at a greater percentage of movies vs music listening, you will be blown away with the QS series surrounds. They are so good that you will find people that own front speakers from other manufacturers and come to Axiom for their surround speakers.

Just some thoughts.


Thanks for this. I'll have to look into the QS Series because yes this will primarily be used for movies.

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Originally Posted By: CatBrat
But.... what?

M50 + M22 has got to be a major improvement over M22 + M22.

M50 providing most of lower freq down to 80hz, and M22 being good at midrange/treble.


Didn't even think of this. In essence you M50 + M22 = M60 or M80? yet less depth - hmmm

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It won't do the lower bass that M80 can do, but that's what sub woofer is for.

Another thought: If you're going to put speakers behind an acoustically transparent screen, then 2 speakers vertically aligned probably won't fit. Definitely don't put them side by side. That would destroy the sound field.

My plans, sometime in the future, is to do this using M80 in-cabinet models for L/C/R. To to this, I'll have to build out into the room on the other side of the wall. For me, it's the garage. Is it at all possible that you could move your screen towards you a few more inches to use either the M60 or M80's? In-cabinet would probably be best for behind the screen. (you may have to mount some sort of baffle over the ports to keep the air from moving the screen.)

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So little more detail. Front of false wall is 18" from "real" wall with 2" rigid fiberglass (covered in cloth)(hence 16" depth).

In this case, how close to the "real" wall can the back of the speakers be? Any performance issues if too close?

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I don't get it. Visual learner, sorry.

Conventional speakers would need enough room behind for the ports to be effective. I've heard a distance equal to the diameter of the port suggested (i.e. a couple inches).

I don't know what your "false wall" looks like, but the In-cabinet M60 is 15.31" deep and has the port ON THE FRONT. Maybe that's an option?

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I don't understand why people would want to hide nice speakers behind a wall, I want to see my expensive speakers, but that is just me. smile My speakers are about 6" away from my front wall.


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Originally Posted By: SirQuack
I don't understand why people would want to hide nice speakers behind a wall, I want to see my expensive speakers, but that is just me. smile My speakers are about 6" away from my front wall.


Just a matter of preference. For me I like the seamless look of a theater without seeing the speakers and just hearing them. Again, a matter of preference, but I don't need the speakers to look beautiful for my purpose - I just want them to sound good.

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I would definetely go with the M60 in-cabinet. You will still need 2 or 3 inches between the speaker fronts and the back of the screen. This means the screen itself should not be flush against the false wall, but you can build out around the edge of the screen area with some 2x2 or 2x4. Putting the screen against the front of the speakers will make the screen vibrate too much. (According to what I've heard everyone else say.)

Oh, and one more thing. Definetly use 3 M60's for L/C/R. This will give a better and more even sound field. A horrizontal center channel is a compromise design to allow for placement under/over the TV.

I too want to use a setup similar to this. Have you chosen which screen you are going to use? All of the AT screens I could find were very expensive. Especially the ones that claimed to not need any upper frequency boost.

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Originally Posted By: CatBrat
I would definetely go with the M60 in-cabinet. You will still need 2 or 3 inches between the speaker fronts and the back of the screen. This means the screen itself should not be flush against the false wall, but you can build out around the edge of the screen area with some 2x2 or 2x4. Putting the screen against the front of the speakers will make the screen vibrate too much. (According to what I've heard everyone else say.)

Oh, and one more thing. Definetly use 3 M60's for L/C/R. This will give a better and more even sound field. A horrizontal center channel is a compromise design to allow for placement under/over the TV.

I too want to use a setup similar to this. Have you chosen which screen you are going to use? All of the AT screens I could find were very expensive. Especially the ones that claimed to not need any upper frequency boost.


Very good point and I think I may do exactly what you suggest. Looking at Seymour AV CenterStage XD fabric. I've read nothing but positive comments about the fabric. I've also read 2" minimum space between speaker and this screen fabric. I would go DIY route to save some cost as well.

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I just looked them up here.

It made me a little uneasy, when looking at their graph of frequency response. The speaker frequency response from about 15k to 20k hz was drastically raised in order to show a slower drop off after it passes through the screen. To me, it made it look like false advertising.

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I'm going based on what I have read from people whom have used the material. If concerned, I'm sure they (Chris) can provide you with a sample to test or answer your questions. there is an entire thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=842769 about this material.

I have 2 samples (approx 6" X 9") but haven't run any tests myself ... nor do I know how wink

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Originally Posted By: MysticalJet
Originally Posted By: SirQuack
I don't understand why people would want to hide nice speakers behind a wall, I want to see my expensive speakers, but that is just me. smile My speakers are about 6" away from my front wall.


Just a matter of preference. For me I like the seamless look of a theater without seeing the speakers and just hearing them. Again, a matter of preference, but I don't need the speakers to look beautiful for my purpose - I just want them to sound good.


I like the way my Axioms look, this the reason I went with Boston Cherry instead of black. I wanted to see the speakers and have them look more expensive than they really were.

Now, with my new setup, I am going with a false front wall and an acoustically transparent screen. I want to have the audio nailed to the front image, while giving me a nice and clean front of my room. Also, to my wife's satisfaction, I will be able to hide my big SVS cylinder sub behind there.

I will, however, set things up nicely and do the good old gimmick of having some lights behind the screen that can be turned on/off to make the front Axioms show up through the screen. To me, that is even a cooler effect.


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Originally Posted By: nickbuol


I will, however, set things up nicely and do the good old gimmick of having some lights behind the screen that can be turned on/off to make the front Axioms show up through the screen. To me, that is even a cooler effect.


I've see n this effect and it is WAY Cool!

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Here's a quote I read from the AVSforum link you provided. Hold a candle in front of the port, play at volume and bass that you would normally play at and see if it blows the candle out.

"Unless you could blow out a candle with the airflow, you won’t move the screen."

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I also noticed that several people said that you got a much better picture when you angled the fabric. This means that instead of mounting the fabric straight, with the weave going straight up and down and left and right, that you buy the fabric larger than you need and mount it so that the weave is now at an angle.

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Yep - that is the trick to avoid moire effect. I believe you can have the company cut the fabric at an angle already (not sure).

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I do not think you have the depth for any of towers unless you go with the foward ported in-wall / in-cabinet models. You could try two sets of M22's for the R/L. Use some industrial Velcro and stick them together end to end with the tweeters together. Then you'd have to brace them somehow to keep them from tipping.

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It looks like choice of backing material has a greater impact on sound quality, than this screen does. Including backing material improves blacks and colors, but at the loss of some audio quality.

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I'm going with Seymour AT fabric when I do it. They will cut at an angle for you. Their fabric is sort of a "stair step" as opposed to straight vertical and horizontal weave, but yes, it is a good idea to cut on an angle.


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Originally Posted By: michael_d
I do not think you have the depth for any of towers unless you go with the foward ported in-wall / in-cabinet models. You could try two sets of M22's for the R/L. Use some industrial Velcro and stick them together end to end with the tweeters together. Then you'd have to brace them somehow to keep them from tipping.

What do I lose if anything by going with the in cabinet front ported?

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Originally Posted By: CatBrat
It looks like choice of backing material has a greater impact on sound quality, than this screen does. Including backing material improves blacks and colors, but at the loss of some audio quality.


I'm going to go without the backing material and see how it goes first.

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Originally Posted By: nickbuol
I'm going with Seymour AT fabric when I do it. They will cut at an angle for you. Their fabric is sort of a "stair step" as opposed to straight vertical and horizontal weave, but yes, it is a good idea to cut on an angle.


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I've been measuring and planning and just don't think the towers (60's) will fit - either the regular or the cabinet.

Would 3 M22V2 as LCR give enough sound stage, loudness, and power for the 2400 cuft theater? Keep in mind I will have 2 12" subs to support the low frequencies and a 7.2 system overall.

I just don't want something that sounds too "small" for the room for the LCR.

Also - this room is 99% for movies and gaming

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Hi Mystical,

Yes, three M22s across the front (plus your surrounds) supported by two subwoofers would certainly provide clean, high-volume reproduction for movies and music, provided you aren't expecting the near-deafening maximum sound levels that the M80s/VP180 are able to deliver in rooms much larger than yours. (The M60s can play almost as loud as the M80s.)

I run my M22s plus Axiom EP500 subwoofer to SPL levels that briefly peak at up to 103 dB at a listening distance of 8 to 13 feet. (I do virtually all my listening/viewing in 5.1 and have several different centers including an M22 or M2 or a VP150.) I'd prefer a VP180 center but there just isn't room in my 2100 cu. ft living room.

The M22 fronts are on an A/B switcher with the M80 v2s, and I do not hear significant differences unless I want to push the playback levels higher than the 103-dB SPL peaks. I listen to very little rock music (mostly classical, opera, jazz and blues) so if your needs are extremely loud clean levels of rock, which some of my Axiom colleagues prefer, I'd suggest you somehow fit the in-cabinet M60s or M80s into your plans.

The M22s plus sub, QS8s and center, are also excellent for blockbuster soundtracks--remake of War of the Worlds, the Bourne movies, etc--and I run those pretty loud. I've never felt the need for higher SPL levels watching those movies.

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Hi Alan,

Thanks for your knowledgeable response. Would you then recommend all M22V2 or go VP150 for center?

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Hi,

For movies and gaming, I'd go with the VP150. It has five drivers so it will also play cleaner at very loud levels than the M22.

The M22, in my judgment, is a little smoother on music vocals than the vp150, but those slight differences only become apparent with immediate A/B comparisons. I'm assuming you'll use the M22 in its vertical orientation. I don't recommend laying it on its side.

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Thanks again. All M22V2 would be vertical in alignment.

Alright, gives me more to think about. Ideally I'd like to come up with a way to fit the M60's but at least I know I have an option with the M22's if needed.

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M22's are a very capable speaker and can play to very loud levels, combined with those subs you should be very happy with a full compliment of M22s across the front. I have used my m22's in my room which is ~3000 cuft and they sound great.


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I'll also agree with 3 M22's. That's what i would have if i could, but had to settle for an M2 center due to space limitations.

I'll also second Alan's comment on the M22 vs VP150 for music. I switched a VP150 for an M2 and when I did my back to back comparisons I noticed a better blend and overall presence with the M22's. I'll assume that M22 could only be better than an M2.

For movies however I also did note that the M2 was more intelligible than the VP150, especially in my off-axis seating position. I have not noticed the M2 straining to keep up with the M22 but I have a small HT room and don't need to crank to 0dB to get big sound. -15 to 20 dB on my receiver is usually 'very loud' in my HT. YMMV.

Cheers,


Dan
On-Wall M5HP LCR, QS8 & EP500 in 7.1
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