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#357645 - 10/29/11 02:22 AM Re: Has anyone heard a difference between receivers? [Re: dakkon]
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Dak, as shown in the NRC measurements here , the M22 impedance drops to about 3 ohms in the upper mid-range/lower treble, but this is certainly no cause for worry and hasn't given me any for the past 9 years. The heat load on an amplifier isn't determined by the lowest speaker impedance in a particular frequency range, but by the average impedance over the entire frequency range when playing music.
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#357676 - 10/29/11 01:15 PM Re: Has anyone heard a difference between receivers? [Re: JohnK]
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My point john was that the minimum impedance is the lowest that the amp will ever see.

I am surprised that they go as low as 3ohms, i did not think it would be that low. Even still them amp will only see a 3ohm load for short periods of time, and at 5khz infrequently.

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#357701 - 10/29/11 08:14 PM Re: Has anyone heard a difference between receivers? [Re: dakkon]
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The M22's minimum impedance is quite low, even with a negative phase angle but it is up in the frequency range where the power demands are not that great. Other than that it is a typical load.
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#358220 - 11/07/11 10:08 AM Re: Has anyone heard a difference between receivers? [Re: jakewash]
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#358230 - 11/07/11 10:42 AM Re: Has anyone heard a difference between receivers? [Re: Andre]
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Originally Posted By: Andre
Different companies make the amp sections for their receivers differently. Many times the relationship between speakers and amp are love, hate, or ehh whatever...:)

Has anyone found a certain manufacturer that makes the axioms (especially the M22s) sound "better" in their opinion.

Denon, Onkyo, H&K, Yamaha...others?

No.
And no one on these forums to my knowledge has ever performed a properly controlled, random, blind, SPL matched and instantaneously switched A/B listening test to even remotely provide confidence of such a conclusion.
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#358255 - 11/07/11 02:44 PM Re: Has anyone heard a difference between receivers? [Re: chesseroo]
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#358320 - 11/08/11 10:21 AM Re: Has anyone heard a difference between receivers? [Re: tomtuttle]
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Originally Posted By: tomtuttle
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#358345 - 11/08/11 09:28 PM Re: Has anyone heard a difference between receivers? [Re: chesseroo]
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#358347 - 11/08/11 11:03 PM Re: Has anyone heard a difference between receivers? [Re: pmbuko]
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#358348 - 11/08/11 11:18 PM Re: Has anyone heard a difference between receivers? [Re: medic8r]
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