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Re: Pre-Pro options?
michael_d #361559 12/21/11 07:25 PM
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I agree with the above - the 4311 would be an almost ideal choice. I own the 4311 and it will provide you with what you are asking and you should be able to find it on the street for $1500 or less (at least it was available at that price a year ago when I bought mine).

Key features for you:
- Newer version of your 3808 so you'll be familiar with it's usage & features
- True 11.2 channel support (with external amplification for two channels as it only has 9 amplified channels)
- Pre Amp mode which allows you to bypass the internal amps for full external amplification. NOTE: simply bypasses the amps and doesn't necessarily shut them off so it doesn't quite behave like a dedicated pre/pro
- Audyssey MutltEQ XT32 (includes SUB EQ XT) - provides dual sub calibration. NOTE: you need to take 8 measurements, not 32. 32 measurements are only taken if you purchase the professional Audyssey installer kit & software, which is probably a bit of overkill - but is possible with the 4311 as it`s compatible with the pro kit

Overall it`s a great product and highly recommended.

Re: Pre-Pro options?
icehawk21 #361563 12/21/11 09:28 PM
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I did some surfing of the 4311 thread and it does appear to calibrate the two subs independently, at least the level and distance. It then, as I understand it, applies filters to both subs as if they were only one - after distance and level matching them both. So it would appear it's an ad hoc sort of thing.

It also looks like Denon skipped a model year due to the earthquake in Japan and they will be releasing the 4313 this spring. I may just wait a couple months and see what the 4313 brings to the table.

JB: Thanks for link. I did read that thread for a while, years back, but got lazy. It's too much like reading instructions.... But ya, you're right and I should get caught up now that I'm looking to move to today's tech.

Re: Pre-Pro options?
michael_d #361569 12/21/11 10:09 PM
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It is also not uncommon for Denon to not produce the "upper" end series with new yearly changes. IIRC the 43 series is now their top receiver or at least I remember rumblings about them doing this; that is to say dropping the 48XX and 53XX series.


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Re: Pre-Pro options?
jakewash #361595 12/22/11 06:12 AM
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Geez, Mike, between a new processor and a new center... Did you get your Christmas bonus or something? grin


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Re: Pre-Pro options?
tomtuttle #361629 12/22/11 06:15 PM
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Don't forget the new projector and Oppo BR player lol. I had saved a few bucks (8K) for different wheels/tires for the Z and have since decided to wait a year in the event I trade it for C7-Z when they come out. All that aside, I haven't upgraded any of my HT stuff for about three years now.

Re: Pre-Pro options?
michael_d #361670 12/23/11 03:01 AM
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Michael, i find that i get more hours of enjoyment from HT purchases as opposed to car purchases... I have a track car, as well as a dd/project car... While the track car is fun, i spend more time with the HT than i do with the track car. Wrenching is a good distraction though.

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dakkon #361677 12/23/11 04:07 AM
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He just needs something to do while recovering....


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