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#362805 - 01/05/12 02:47 PM What would you do?
michael_d Offline

Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 4249
Loc: Up yonder
The premise being, you have about $1500 +/- to blow on A/V gear.

I have a choice to make.

I have been replacing my vinyl speakers to real wood speakers in my wee lil' HT room for a year or so. The room is 12' wide by 18' deep, 9' ceiling height. I currently have M80ti's for the R/L speakers and all others are late model V2's. I have a VP160 on order. When it arrives, I'll have a set of M22's to use - somewhere, or just collect dust, or give them to one of my buddies who doesn't have a lot of disposable income for A/V gear.

My choices are:

Buy a 4311 and use the M22's for "Wide" speakers. As my room is pretty small, I'm not real sure how effective wide speakers will be. They would essentially be placed slightly forward of the mains. The mains are roughly 9' apart now as my screen width is 8'. The other benefit to moving to this AVR is that I can pass 3D through it. But, that's not a deal breaker as my VP has two outputs and I can send audio to my 3808 and send video to my projector. It's just convenient to have the 3808 in the chain to see the 3808's menu on my screen.

Buy another set of M80's. M80's are complete overkill for a room this size, but I am one of those "enough is never enough" kind of guys. But, the M80's do interfere with the screen viewing due to their height.

Buy a set of M60's. I had originally planned to swap out the M80's with M60's. The main reason was the reduced height from M80's. 2.5" would help a bit.
M60, M80 or 4311
Only one choice allowed

Votes accepted starting: 01/05/12 02:29 PM
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#362807 - 01/05/12 02:53 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: michael_d]
CatBrat Offline

Registered: 08/05/09
Posts: 6015
Loc: Milky Way Galaxy
You're room is bigger than my future HT room and I plan on going with 3 M80's across the front behind an acoustically transparent screen. I opt for option #4. Buy one M80 and 1 AT screen (although, probably cost more than $1500, but I think a better option). You'd have to swap the VP160 order to an M80 order, which would free up $460. Use a 10 foot screen. (I'd opt for a 2.40:1 if possible.)

Edited by CatBrat (01/05/12 02:56 PM)

#362811 - 01/05/12 04:21 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: CatBrat]
nickbuol Offline

Registered: 09/16/04
Posts: 5396
Loc: Marion, IA
Or we could pair up your M22's with my VP150 and start a nice little setup for someone...

I am using (get this) M60 fronts with a huge VP180 center and four QS8s in my 14' wide x 24' long x(not quite)8' high theater build...

The "get this" part is that I bought the VP180 from the auction site new from Axiom, before there was mention of a VP160, and the VP180 sits 10 feet from me, out of its box, but still wrapped in the packaging plastic while I finish my basement.

Oh, and my VP150 sits right next to it. Waiting for some purpose in life (like your M22s)...
2-M60s, VP180, 8-M3s, SVS 20-39PCi, DIY Sub, 8-Shakers, JVC RS45, Anthem MRX-1120

#362824 - 01/05/12 07:56 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: nickbuol]
GTZ Offline
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Registered: 11/04/10
Posts: 77
Loc: Wisconsin
I voted M80. IMHO the term 'overkill' doesn't apply to AV stuff.
M80's, VP150, QS8's (all V3) Epic Sentinel Sub
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#362826 - 01/05/12 08:04 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: GTZ]
terzaghi Offline

Registered: 04/04/07
Posts: 4872
Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma
I voted m80 as well. I'd love to have some have real wood m80's.

#362827 - 01/05/12 08:06 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: terzaghi]
tomtuttle Offline

Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 8488
Loc: Tacoma
Real wood M80's all the way. I think width speakers in a room that size would be retarded ineffective.
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#362829 - 01/05/12 08:12 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: tomtuttle]
jakewash Offline
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Registered: 12/26/03
Posts: 10420
Loc: Calgary, Alberta
I can't beleive I am saying this but I voted for M60's. I went this route as it would help with the view and as this is a HT and not for music (IIRC you have a 2 channel system for that correct?) I feel the M60s are more than ample and clear/clean enough for movie playback.
M80 v2
VP160 v3
QS8 v2
PB13 Ultra
Denon 3808
Samsung 85" Q70

#362832 - 01/05/12 08:17 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: jakewash]
michael_d Offline

Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 4249
Loc: Up yonder
Yes Jason... This room is for Movies. I can't sit still long enough to just sit and listen to music, so my music listening is generally the other system, loud enough to hear all over the house.

I'm not changing the screen, so AT is out. Bottom of screen is 35" from the floor, so I need horizontal center (or the M22's).

Tom - go to your room. You friggin nut.. lol

#362835 - 01/05/12 08:33 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: michael_d]
Dduval Offline

Registered: 01/14/09
Posts: 349
This is an easy decision, the 4311 hands down due to MultiXT32 and having wides. To me, this combo was a huge upgrade to my movie watching experience. My 1 cent...

Especially with you having dual subs, MultiXT32 is specifically designed to eq 2 subs. smile Something to think about...

Edited by Dduval (01/05/12 08:42 PM)
M80's, QS8's, M22's, CHT SHO-10, Dual CHT SS-18.1's, Onkyo NR3008, Mitsubishi WD-73740

#362853 - 01/05/12 11:10 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: michael_d]
JohnK Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 05/11/02
Posts: 10644
Mike, just from what you've described, I'd also suggest getting the 4311 and using the M22s for wides. Dean probably has experimented the most with height and wide speakers and was reasonably enthusiastic about using M2s or M22s as wides, so if he sees this, hopefully he'll add some comments.

Enjoy the music, not the equipment.

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