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Re: VP160 Placement Advice
SirQuack #365363 02/01/12 04:23 AM
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I would try to raise it if possible. What type of screen aspect ratio are you using, that seems tall for the given wall. Maybe go with a 2.35 or smaller 16:9 screen so you can raise the center up.


The screen is 16:9 and it's at the optimum height for my seats. Here's a photo of my old set-up. The fabric ceiling panels hide all the cables. In the renovated room the cables will be hidden inside black crown molding and it will appear that there is more space above the screen.



I don't think I can modify the stand I have for the VP150. The VP160 is a monster and I'd be afraid of it being too top heavy for the old stand.


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I guess you could order the VP160 stand in a special height, more money but guaranteed to work.


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Re: VP160 Placement Advice
jakewash #365376 02/01/12 07:30 AM
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Soup tins stacked 3 high should do it.


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Re: VP160 Placement Advice
Bayne #365377 02/01/12 09:27 AM
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Bayne, placement directly on the floor may in fact be a superior option compared to a stand mount. The important factor is to have the center of the woofer cones at different distances from the nearest room surfaces(floor, wall behind, side walls)so that the reflections don't pile up at the same frequencies and result in uneven response. At present it appears that the woofers are about 5" from the floor, a couple feet from the wall behind, and more feet from the side walls. This is excellent from one factor of room acoustics, but not so good from the standpoint of having the tweeters directed to ear level(they don't have to actually be at ear level). Tilting the center back to point to the ears works well and may be better overall than using a stand unless the distances to the room surfaces from the stand position are made unequal.


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Re: VP160 Placement Advice
Bayne #365381 02/01/12 11:36 AM
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I'd vote for a stand, though of course placing it on and off pretty much anything will allow you to try both.

My gut feeling is that the speaker will sound a bit chesty when sitting on the floor due to boundary-effect and the speaker's low-end ability.

If you do indeed find a stand of a particular height is preferable, it's easy enough to build something simple and virtually invisible until you have the time or the money to replace it with something better. Maybe some colored (black?) milk-crate-type things from Target would work for awhile....


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Re: VP160 Placement Advice
Bayne #365389 02/01/12 02:41 PM
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Hi Bayne,

I suspect that boundary effects from the floor will add colorations to the VP160 you won't be happy with. In general, speakers should not be placed on the floor unless they're floor-standing designs (like the M50,M60 and M80 towers) intended for floor placement.

Definitely use a stand or some kind of support to raise it off the floor.

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Re: VP160 Placement Advice
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I can't believe nobody has suggested hockey pucks, yet.


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The 160 comes with feet as thick as a hockey puck.


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Re: VP160 Placement Advice
Bayne #365422 02/01/12 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: Bayne
Originally Posted By: SirQuack
I would try to raise it if possible. What type of screen aspect ratio are you using, that seems tall for the given wall. Maybe go with a 2.35 or smaller 16:9 screen so you can raise the center up.


The screen is 16:9 and it's at the optimum height for my seats. Here's a photo of my old set-up. The fabric ceiling panels hide all the cables. In the renovated room the cables will be hidden inside black crown molding and it will appear that there is more space above the screen.



I don't think I can modify the stand I have for the VP150. The VP160 is a monster and I'd be afraid of it being too top heavy for the old stand.


This is another option if you want some extra tilting, which the Axiom doesn't seem to do. http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?PartNumber=240-808 It should be close to the right height. I bought some steel speaker stands from PartsExpress for my M22's several years ago. I don't know which brand now, but they are so beefy that I feel confident standing on them myself. This center channel stand is probably not quite as sturdy since it can tilt as well, but should be fine for the VP160.

Though, the price of this is so close to the one from Axiom, you may just want to go with that one, since you live in Canada. I just noticed that you can enter a custom height when ordering it and the cost is the same, so the Axiom stand may be the best way to go.

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