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Re: vp 160 vs vp180
markdar98 #367974 02/26/12 02:14 PM
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The pictures in this thread have me giddy with excitement for my new speakers to show up next Monday.


Pan TH-50PZ800U
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Axiom VP180
Axiom QS8 (2)
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Re: vp 160 vs vp180
SBrown #368018 02/26/12 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted By: SBrown
The 160 ain't no slouch, probably sound better in alot of situations compared to the elder brother.


That is why you run 2 centers, and use both the 160&180 That is what i am thinking about doing... :~)

Re: vp 160 vs vp180
dakkon #368033 02/26/12 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: dakkon
Originally Posted By: SBrown
The 160 ain't no slouch, probably sound better in alot of situations compared to the elder brother.


That is why you run 2 centers, and use both the 160&180 That is what i am thinking about doing... :~)


Not sure if I'd do that.... Look at the spl spec on each. Unless you have independent gain control for each, one may be considerably louder than the other. I know the VP150 was four db louder than the VP160 in my room. Too much to use both.

Oddly enough, the VP150 spl was within 1 db of two M22's.

Re: vp 160 vs vp180
michael_d #368037 02/26/12 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: michael_d
Originally Posted By: dakkon
Originally Posted By: SBrown
The 160 ain't no slouch, probably sound better in alot of situations compared to the elder brother.


That is why you run 2 centers, and use both the 160&180 That is what i am thinking about doing... :~)


Not sure if I'd do that.... Look at the spl spec on each. Unless you have independent gain control for each, one may be considerably louder than the other. I know the VP150 was four db louder than the VP160 in my room. Too much to use both.

Oddly enough, the VP150 spl was within 1 db of two M22's.


Yep, I totally concur that if you are going to run two center channels they better be the same model, otherwise you can, because of differing designs and positioning and even with the same manufacturer, have a volume imbalance issue. Obviously, the only way one can get around this is with separate amplification along with the ability to adjust the volume independently of each. I have also tried it with a separate volume attenuator switch however, it adds noise to the speaker you are attenuating.

Re: vp 160 vs vp180
markdar98 #368038 02/26/12 10:21 PM
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I heard that double (non-matching anyway) centers wasn't worth it for that exact reason. One will dominate over the other and you won't really notice much of a difference.

I know, some of you are thinking the same thing that I was... Wouldn't it provide a wider/taller/more centered/etc center channel sound experience. I was told "not really" by the experts. Thus the reason that my VP150 will be "homeless" (or at least "system-less") once my build is done.


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Re: vp 160 vs vp180
michael_d #368040 02/26/12 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: michael_d


Unless you have independent gain control for each, one may be considerably louder than the other.


If i use my Marantz amp it does have independent control of each channel on the amp.

Originally Posted By: nickbuol

Wouldn't it provide a wider/taller/more centered/etc center channel sound experience. I was told "not really" by the experts.


That is what i was thinking... The 180 for the frequency response, and the 160 for the dispersion...

hrm.. I will just stick with the 180 then.

Re: vp 160 vs vp180
dakkon #368043 02/27/12 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted By: dakkon
That is what i was thinking... The 180 for the frequency response, and the 160 for the dispersion...

hrm.. I will just stick with the 180 then.


Yeah, I'm starting to care less and less about people outside of the sweet spot. They're not me, so why should I try to give them a better experience if it compromises my own?

Re: vp 160 vs vp180
dakkon #368044 02/27/12 12:09 AM
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JC has two centers going "ask him", I would like to hook up my 150 on the bottom and 160 on top of my picture. That would be enough for me, very soon you will need more front speakers the way the centers are sounding.

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nickbuol #368049 02/27/12 01:14 AM
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Here are some pictures of my VP180 when it arrived. I posted these back in September, but figured it would be easier to add them here, than for people to go to that link.

I compared it to my VP150 and M60 fronts...

The box...


VP180 vs VP150 size...


Another view...


Next to the M60 fronts...


Next to M60s again with grills off...


Lastly, top down size comparison with the M60s on the left and the VP180 on the right.



Re: vp 160 vs vp180
markdar98 #368058 02/27/12 02:24 AM
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Sorry, don't know yet... I am still constructing v4.0 of my theater. The VP180 is sitting still in plastic wrap waiting...


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